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I did a few examples using the CRT to solve congruences where everything was in terms of integers. I'm trying to use the same technique for polynomials over $mathbb{Q}$, but I'm getting stuck.





Here's an example with integers:



$begin{cases}x equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , 5) \
x equiv 2 , (mathrm{mod} , 7) \
x equiv 3 , (mathrm{mod} , 9) \
x equiv 4 , (mathrm{mod} , 11).
end{cases}$



Since all the moduli are pairwise relatively prime, we can use the CRT. Here's some notation I'm using:



$bullet , M$ denotes the product of the moduli (in this case, $M = 5 cdot7 cdot 9 cdot 11$)



$bullet , m_i $ denotes the modulus in the $i^{mathrm{th}}$ congruence



$bullet , M_i$ denotes $dfrac{M}{m_i}$



$bullet , y_i$ denotes the inverse of $M_i$ (mod $m_i$), i.e. $y_i$ satisfies $y_i M_i equiv 1$ (mod $m_i$).



Then $x = displaystyle sum_{i = 1}^n a_iM_iy_i$, and this solution is unique (mod $M$).





Now I want to apply the same technique to the following:



$begin{cases}
f(x) equiv 1 , (mathrm{ mod } , x^2 + 1) \
f(x) equiv x , (mathrm{mod} , x^4),
end{cases}$



where $f(x) in mathbb{Q}(x)$. Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime, we should be able to use the CRT. Using the notation above, I have the following:



$M = (x^4)(x^2 + 1)$



$M_1 = x^4$



$M_2 = x^2 + 1$



Here's where I run into a problem. I need to find $y_1, y_2$ such that



$begin{cases}
y_1 (x^4) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^2 + 1) \
y_2 (x^2+1) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^4).
end{cases}$



But how does one find $y_1, y_2$?










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    "Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
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    Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
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I did a few examples using the CRT to solve congruences where everything was in terms of integers. I'm trying to use the same technique for polynomials over $mathbb{Q}$, but I'm getting stuck.





Here's an example with integers:



$begin{cases}x equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , 5) \
x equiv 2 , (mathrm{mod} , 7) \
x equiv 3 , (mathrm{mod} , 9) \
x equiv 4 , (mathrm{mod} , 11).
end{cases}$



Since all the moduli are pairwise relatively prime, we can use the CRT. Here's some notation I'm using:



$bullet , M$ denotes the product of the moduli (in this case, $M = 5 cdot7 cdot 9 cdot 11$)



$bullet , m_i $ denotes the modulus in the $i^{mathrm{th}}$ congruence



$bullet , M_i$ denotes $dfrac{M}{m_i}$



$bullet , y_i$ denotes the inverse of $M_i$ (mod $m_i$), i.e. $y_i$ satisfies $y_i M_i equiv 1$ (mod $m_i$).



Then $x = displaystyle sum_{i = 1}^n a_iM_iy_i$, and this solution is unique (mod $M$).





Now I want to apply the same technique to the following:



$begin{cases}
f(x) equiv 1 , (mathrm{ mod } , x^2 + 1) \
f(x) equiv x , (mathrm{mod} , x^4),
end{cases}$



where $f(x) in mathbb{Q}(x)$. Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime, we should be able to use the CRT. Using the notation above, I have the following:



$M = (x^4)(x^2 + 1)$



$M_1 = x^4$



$M_2 = x^2 + 1$



Here's where I run into a problem. I need to find $y_1, y_2$ such that



$begin{cases}
y_1 (x^4) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^2 + 1) \
y_2 (x^2+1) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^4).
end{cases}$



But how does one find $y_1, y_2$?










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    $begingroup$
    "Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
    $endgroup$
    – kccu
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
    $endgroup$
    – Junglemath
    8 hours ago














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$begingroup$


I did a few examples using the CRT to solve congruences where everything was in terms of integers. I'm trying to use the same technique for polynomials over $mathbb{Q}$, but I'm getting stuck.





Here's an example with integers:



$begin{cases}x equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , 5) \
x equiv 2 , (mathrm{mod} , 7) \
x equiv 3 , (mathrm{mod} , 9) \
x equiv 4 , (mathrm{mod} , 11).
end{cases}$



Since all the moduli are pairwise relatively prime, we can use the CRT. Here's some notation I'm using:



$bullet , M$ denotes the product of the moduli (in this case, $M = 5 cdot7 cdot 9 cdot 11$)



$bullet , m_i $ denotes the modulus in the $i^{mathrm{th}}$ congruence



$bullet , M_i$ denotes $dfrac{M}{m_i}$



$bullet , y_i$ denotes the inverse of $M_i$ (mod $m_i$), i.e. $y_i$ satisfies $y_i M_i equiv 1$ (mod $m_i$).



Then $x = displaystyle sum_{i = 1}^n a_iM_iy_i$, and this solution is unique (mod $M$).





Now I want to apply the same technique to the following:



$begin{cases}
f(x) equiv 1 , (mathrm{ mod } , x^2 + 1) \
f(x) equiv x , (mathrm{mod} , x^4),
end{cases}$



where $f(x) in mathbb{Q}(x)$. Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime, we should be able to use the CRT. Using the notation above, I have the following:



$M = (x^4)(x^2 + 1)$



$M_1 = x^4$



$M_2 = x^2 + 1$



Here's where I run into a problem. I need to find $y_1, y_2$ such that



$begin{cases}
y_1 (x^4) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^2 + 1) \
y_2 (x^2+1) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^4).
end{cases}$



But how does one find $y_1, y_2$?










share|cite|improve this question









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I did a few examples using the CRT to solve congruences where everything was in terms of integers. I'm trying to use the same technique for polynomials over $mathbb{Q}$, but I'm getting stuck.





Here's an example with integers:



$begin{cases}x equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , 5) \
x equiv 2 , (mathrm{mod} , 7) \
x equiv 3 , (mathrm{mod} , 9) \
x equiv 4 , (mathrm{mod} , 11).
end{cases}$



Since all the moduli are pairwise relatively prime, we can use the CRT. Here's some notation I'm using:



$bullet , M$ denotes the product of the moduli (in this case, $M = 5 cdot7 cdot 9 cdot 11$)



$bullet , m_i $ denotes the modulus in the $i^{mathrm{th}}$ congruence



$bullet , M_i$ denotes $dfrac{M}{m_i}$



$bullet , y_i$ denotes the inverse of $M_i$ (mod $m_i$), i.e. $y_i$ satisfies $y_i M_i equiv 1$ (mod $m_i$).



Then $x = displaystyle sum_{i = 1}^n a_iM_iy_i$, and this solution is unique (mod $M$).





Now I want to apply the same technique to the following:



$begin{cases}
f(x) equiv 1 , (mathrm{ mod } , x^2 + 1) \
f(x) equiv x , (mathrm{mod} , x^4),
end{cases}$



where $f(x) in mathbb{Q}(x)$. Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime, we should be able to use the CRT. Using the notation above, I have the following:



$M = (x^4)(x^2 + 1)$



$M_1 = x^4$



$M_2 = x^2 + 1$



Here's where I run into a problem. I need to find $y_1, y_2$ such that



$begin{cases}
y_1 (x^4) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^2 + 1) \
y_2 (x^2+1) equiv 1 , (mathrm{mod} , x^4).
end{cases}$



But how does one find $y_1, y_2$?







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    "Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
    $endgroup$
    – kccu
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
    $endgroup$
    – Junglemath
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    "Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
    $endgroup$
    – kccu
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
    $endgroup$
    – Junglemath
    8 hours ago








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"Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
$endgroup$
– kccu
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
"Having checked that the moduli are relatively prime..." but that means precisely that there exist $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ such that $p_1(x)x^4 + p_2(x)(x^2+1)=1$.
$endgroup$
– kccu
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
$endgroup$
– Junglemath
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Are you saying that I can find $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ in general by using the extended Euclidean algorithm, and that $p_1(x)$ and $p_2(x)$ are precisely my $y_1$ and $y_2$?
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To find $y_1$ and $y_2$ consider solving the problem
$$y_1x^4+y_2(x^2+1)=1.$$
This is not always easy to solve, but in this case a solution comes to mind. Note that by difference of squares
$$(x^2-1)(x^2+1)=x^4-1,$$
hence
$$x^4+[(-1)(x^2-1)](x^2+1)=1.$$
This tells us that we can choose
$$y_1=1,$$
$$y_2=(1-x^2).$$






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    Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
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    @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
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    @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
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    @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
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    @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
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Bu applying $ abbmod ac, =, a(bbmod c) $ [Mod Distributive Law] $ $ it is a bit simpler:



$ f-x,bmod, {x^{large 4}(x^{large 2}!+!1)}, =, x^{large 4}underbrace{{left[dfrac{color{#c00}f-x}{color{#0a0}{x^{large 4}}}bmod {x^{large 2}!+!1}right]}}_{large color{#0a0}{x^{Large 4}} equiv 1 {rm by} x^{Large 2} equiv -1 } =, x^{large 4}[1-x], $ by $,color{#c00}fequiv 1pmod{!x^{large 2}!+!1}$



Remark $ $ Here are further examples done using MDL (an operational form of CRT).



You can find further details here on transforming the Bezout equation into a CRT solution (the method sketched in Melody's answer).






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    To find $y_1$ and $y_2$ consider solving the problem
    $$y_1x^4+y_2(x^2+1)=1.$$
    This is not always easy to solve, but in this case a solution comes to mind. Note that by difference of squares
    $$(x^2-1)(x^2+1)=x^4-1,$$
    hence
    $$x^4+[(-1)(x^2-1)](x^2+1)=1.$$
    This tells us that we can choose
    $$y_1=1,$$
    $$y_2=(1-x^2).$$






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      Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
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      – Junglemath
      8 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
      $endgroup$
      – Paolo
      7 hours ago








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      @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
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      – Melody
      7 hours ago








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      @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
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      7 hours ago








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      @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
      $endgroup$
      – Bill Dubuque
      6 hours ago


















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    $begingroup$

    To find $y_1$ and $y_2$ consider solving the problem
    $$y_1x^4+y_2(x^2+1)=1.$$
    This is not always easy to solve, but in this case a solution comes to mind. Note that by difference of squares
    $$(x^2-1)(x^2+1)=x^4-1,$$
    hence
    $$x^4+[(-1)(x^2-1)](x^2+1)=1.$$
    This tells us that we can choose
    $$y_1=1,$$
    $$y_2=(1-x^2).$$






    share|cite|improve this answer











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    • $begingroup$
      Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
      $endgroup$
      – Junglemath
      8 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
      $endgroup$
      – Paolo
      7 hours ago








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
      $endgroup$
      – Melody
      7 hours ago








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
      $endgroup$
      – Melody
      7 hours ago








    • 2




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      @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
      $endgroup$
      – Bill Dubuque
      6 hours ago
















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    To find $y_1$ and $y_2$ consider solving the problem
    $$y_1x^4+y_2(x^2+1)=1.$$
    This is not always easy to solve, but in this case a solution comes to mind. Note that by difference of squares
    $$(x^2-1)(x^2+1)=x^4-1,$$
    hence
    $$x^4+[(-1)(x^2-1)](x^2+1)=1.$$
    This tells us that we can choose
    $$y_1=1,$$
    $$y_2=(1-x^2).$$






    share|cite|improve this answer











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    To find $y_1$ and $y_2$ consider solving the problem
    $$y_1x^4+y_2(x^2+1)=1.$$
    This is not always easy to solve, but in this case a solution comes to mind. Note that by difference of squares
    $$(x^2-1)(x^2+1)=x^4-1,$$
    hence
    $$x^4+[(-1)(x^2-1)](x^2+1)=1.$$
    This tells us that we can choose
    $$y_1=1,$$
    $$y_2=(1-x^2).$$







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    • $begingroup$
      Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
      $endgroup$
      – Junglemath
      8 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
      $endgroup$
      – Paolo
      7 hours ago








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
      $endgroup$
      – Melody
      7 hours ago








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
      $endgroup$
      – Melody
      7 hours ago








    • 2




      $begingroup$
      @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
      $endgroup$
      – Bill Dubuque
      6 hours ago




















    • $begingroup$
      Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
      $endgroup$
      – Junglemath
      8 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
      $endgroup$
      – Paolo
      7 hours ago








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      @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
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      @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
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      7 hours ago








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      @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
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      – Bill Dubuque
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    Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
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    – Junglemath
    8 hours ago




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    Is there an algorithmic way of solving these, rather than relying on intuition?
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    – Junglemath
    8 hours ago












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    @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
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    – Paolo
    7 hours ago






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    @Junglemath By Euclidean algorithm you can find two polynomials $p(x), q(x) in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $p(x) x^4 + q(x) (x^2 + 1) = 1$.
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    – Paolo
    7 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
    $endgroup$
    – Melody
    7 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    @Junglemath The polynomials over a field form a Euclidean Domain, so yes, there is. If the gcd of $f_1,f_2inmathbb{Q}[x]$ is a unit, then you can perform the Euclidean Algorithm to find their gcd. Now, you can reverse the algorithm to write them as a linear combination of their gcd the same way you would for integers. I said not easy, because the process can be time consuming and very tedious.
    $endgroup$
    – Melody
    7 hours ago






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    2




    $begingroup$
    @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
    $endgroup$
    – Melody
    7 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    @Junglemath I didn't really convert it. I knew in advanced the single equation had a solution. This is because $x^4$ and $x^2+1$ have no common roots, hence no common irreducible factors. This means they are relatively prime, in which case we can write $1$ as a linear combination. Knowing that, I knew solving the single equation would give rise to a solution to the congruence equations. This is completely analogous to how you can solve everything over the integers.
    $endgroup$
    – Melody
    7 hours ago






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    @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
    $endgroup$
    – Bill Dubuque
    6 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    @Junglemath I describe here at length this method of scaling the Bezout equation into a CRT solution.
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    – Bill Dubuque
    6 hours ago













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    Bu applying $ abbmod ac, =, a(bbmod c) $ [Mod Distributive Law] $ $ it is a bit simpler:



    $ f-x,bmod, {x^{large 4}(x^{large 2}!+!1)}, =, x^{large 4}underbrace{{left[dfrac{color{#c00}f-x}{color{#0a0}{x^{large 4}}}bmod {x^{large 2}!+!1}right]}}_{large color{#0a0}{x^{Large 4}} equiv 1 {rm by} x^{Large 2} equiv -1 } =, x^{large 4}[1-x], $ by $,color{#c00}fequiv 1pmod{!x^{large 2}!+!1}$



    Remark $ $ Here are further examples done using MDL (an operational form of CRT).



    You can find further details here on transforming the Bezout equation into a CRT solution (the method sketched in Melody's answer).






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      $begingroup$

      Bu applying $ abbmod ac, =, a(bbmod c) $ [Mod Distributive Law] $ $ it is a bit simpler:



      $ f-x,bmod, {x^{large 4}(x^{large 2}!+!1)}, =, x^{large 4}underbrace{{left[dfrac{color{#c00}f-x}{color{#0a0}{x^{large 4}}}bmod {x^{large 2}!+!1}right]}}_{large color{#0a0}{x^{Large 4}} equiv 1 {rm by} x^{Large 2} equiv -1 } =, x^{large 4}[1-x], $ by $,color{#c00}fequiv 1pmod{!x^{large 2}!+!1}$



      Remark $ $ Here are further examples done using MDL (an operational form of CRT).



      You can find further details here on transforming the Bezout equation into a CRT solution (the method sketched in Melody's answer).






      share|cite|improve this answer











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        $begingroup$

        Bu applying $ abbmod ac, =, a(bbmod c) $ [Mod Distributive Law] $ $ it is a bit simpler:



        $ f-x,bmod, {x^{large 4}(x^{large 2}!+!1)}, =, x^{large 4}underbrace{{left[dfrac{color{#c00}f-x}{color{#0a0}{x^{large 4}}}bmod {x^{large 2}!+!1}right]}}_{large color{#0a0}{x^{Large 4}} equiv 1 {rm by} x^{Large 2} equiv -1 } =, x^{large 4}[1-x], $ by $,color{#c00}fequiv 1pmod{!x^{large 2}!+!1}$



        Remark $ $ Here are further examples done using MDL (an operational form of CRT).



        You can find further details here on transforming the Bezout equation into a CRT solution (the method sketched in Melody's answer).






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        Bu applying $ abbmod ac, =, a(bbmod c) $ [Mod Distributive Law] $ $ it is a bit simpler:



        $ f-x,bmod, {x^{large 4}(x^{large 2}!+!1)}, =, x^{large 4}underbrace{{left[dfrac{color{#c00}f-x}{color{#0a0}{x^{large 4}}}bmod {x^{large 2}!+!1}right]}}_{large color{#0a0}{x^{Large 4}} equiv 1 {rm by} x^{Large 2} equiv -1 } =, x^{large 4}[1-x], $ by $,color{#c00}fequiv 1pmod{!x^{large 2}!+!1}$



        Remark $ $ Here are further examples done using MDL (an operational form of CRT).



        You can find further details here on transforming the Bezout equation into a CRT solution (the method sketched in Melody's answer).







        share|cite|improve this answer














        share|cite|improve this answer



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