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Does every functor from Set to Set preserve products?
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In general, not all functors preserve products. But my question is, is it at least true that all functors from Set to Set preserve products?
If not, does anyone know of a counterexample?
category-theory examples-counterexamples products functors
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In general, not all functors preserve products. But my question is, is it at least true that all functors from Set to Set preserve products?
If not, does anyone know of a counterexample?
category-theory examples-counterexamples products functors
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(Most) constant functors don't preserve products.
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– Arnaud D.
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In general, not all functors preserve products. But my question is, is it at least true that all functors from Set to Set preserve products?
If not, does anyone know of a counterexample?
category-theory examples-counterexamples products functors
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In general, not all functors preserve products. But my question is, is it at least true that all functors from Set to Set preserve products?
If not, does anyone know of a counterexample?
category-theory examples-counterexamples products functors
category-theory examples-counterexamples products functors
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(Most) constant functors don't preserve products.
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(Most) constant functors don't preserve products.
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(Most) constant functors don't preserve products.
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If you consider the powerset functor $mathcal{P}$, which takes any $A$ to its powerset $mathcal{P}A$, and any function $f : A to B$ to the function $mathcal{P}f : mathcal{P}A to mathcal{P}B$, defined by the direct image, for $Xsubset A$, $(mathcal{P}f)(X) = f(X) subset B$. This defines a functor from Set to Set.
Now you can check that this functor doesn't preserve products, since, for instance you have :
$mathcal{P}{0} = {emptyset,{0}}$, so taking any non-empty finite set $A$, you have $mathcal{P}(Atimes{0}) = mathcal{P}(A) neq mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})$. You can check that they are indeed different by looking at their cardinal :
$|mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})| = 2 |mathcal{P}(A)| $
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There are a lot of counterexamples, actually.
For example, if $S$ is has more than two elements, then the functor that map every set to $S$ and every function to the identity of $S$ does not preserve products, since the two projections $Stimes Sto S$ are not equal.
The functor $Xmapsto Stimes X$ does not preserve products either, because the function $$Stimes Xtimes Yto Stimes Xtimes Stimes Y:(s,x,y)mapsto (s,x,s,y)$$
is never surjective.
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If you consider the powerset functor $mathcal{P}$, which takes any $A$ to its powerset $mathcal{P}A$, and any function $f : A to B$ to the function $mathcal{P}f : mathcal{P}A to mathcal{P}B$, defined by the direct image, for $Xsubset A$, $(mathcal{P}f)(X) = f(X) subset B$. This defines a functor from Set to Set.
Now you can check that this functor doesn't preserve products, since, for instance you have :
$mathcal{P}{0} = {emptyset,{0}}$, so taking any non-empty finite set $A$, you have $mathcal{P}(Atimes{0}) = mathcal{P}(A) neq mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})$. You can check that they are indeed different by looking at their cardinal :
$|mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})| = 2 |mathcal{P}(A)| $
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If you consider the powerset functor $mathcal{P}$, which takes any $A$ to its powerset $mathcal{P}A$, and any function $f : A to B$ to the function $mathcal{P}f : mathcal{P}A to mathcal{P}B$, defined by the direct image, for $Xsubset A$, $(mathcal{P}f)(X) = f(X) subset B$. This defines a functor from Set to Set.
Now you can check that this functor doesn't preserve products, since, for instance you have :
$mathcal{P}{0} = {emptyset,{0}}$, so taking any non-empty finite set $A$, you have $mathcal{P}(Atimes{0}) = mathcal{P}(A) neq mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})$. You can check that they are indeed different by looking at their cardinal :
$|mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})| = 2 |mathcal{P}(A)| $
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If you consider the powerset functor $mathcal{P}$, which takes any $A$ to its powerset $mathcal{P}A$, and any function $f : A to B$ to the function $mathcal{P}f : mathcal{P}A to mathcal{P}B$, defined by the direct image, for $Xsubset A$, $(mathcal{P}f)(X) = f(X) subset B$. This defines a functor from Set to Set.
Now you can check that this functor doesn't preserve products, since, for instance you have :
$mathcal{P}{0} = {emptyset,{0}}$, so taking any non-empty finite set $A$, you have $mathcal{P}(Atimes{0}) = mathcal{P}(A) neq mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})$. You can check that they are indeed different by looking at their cardinal :
$|mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})| = 2 |mathcal{P}(A)| $
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If you consider the powerset functor $mathcal{P}$, which takes any $A$ to its powerset $mathcal{P}A$, and any function $f : A to B$ to the function $mathcal{P}f : mathcal{P}A to mathcal{P}B$, defined by the direct image, for $Xsubset A$, $(mathcal{P}f)(X) = f(X) subset B$. This defines a functor from Set to Set.
Now you can check that this functor doesn't preserve products, since, for instance you have :
$mathcal{P}{0} = {emptyset,{0}}$, so taking any non-empty finite set $A$, you have $mathcal{P}(Atimes{0}) = mathcal{P}(A) neq mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})$. You can check that they are indeed different by looking at their cardinal :
$|mathcal{P}(A)timesmathcal{P}({0})| = 2 |mathcal{P}(A)| $
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There are a lot of counterexamples, actually.
For example, if $S$ is has more than two elements, then the functor that map every set to $S$ and every function to the identity of $S$ does not preserve products, since the two projections $Stimes Sto S$ are not equal.
The functor $Xmapsto Stimes X$ does not preserve products either, because the function $$Stimes Xtimes Yto Stimes Xtimes Stimes Y:(s,x,y)mapsto (s,x,s,y)$$
is never surjective.
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There are a lot of counterexamples, actually.
For example, if $S$ is has more than two elements, then the functor that map every set to $S$ and every function to the identity of $S$ does not preserve products, since the two projections $Stimes Sto S$ are not equal.
The functor $Xmapsto Stimes X$ does not preserve products either, because the function $$Stimes Xtimes Yto Stimes Xtimes Stimes Y:(s,x,y)mapsto (s,x,s,y)$$
is never surjective.
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There are a lot of counterexamples, actually.
For example, if $S$ is has more than two elements, then the functor that map every set to $S$ and every function to the identity of $S$ does not preserve products, since the two projections $Stimes Sto S$ are not equal.
The functor $Xmapsto Stimes X$ does not preserve products either, because the function $$Stimes Xtimes Yto Stimes Xtimes Stimes Y:(s,x,y)mapsto (s,x,s,y)$$
is never surjective.
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There are a lot of counterexamples, actually.
For example, if $S$ is has more than two elements, then the functor that map every set to $S$ and every function to the identity of $S$ does not preserve products, since the two projections $Stimes Sto S$ are not equal.
The functor $Xmapsto Stimes X$ does not preserve products either, because the function $$Stimes Xtimes Yto Stimes Xtimes Stimes Y:(s,x,y)mapsto (s,x,s,y)$$
is never surjective.
answered 1 hour ago
Arnaud D.Arnaud D.
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