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Contemplating leaving job, but a trip is in the works. Is it professional for me to resign? [on hold]
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be decent and professional for me to send my resignation now? Or should I let that pass first then I resign?
It also doesn't help that I seriously do not want this travel as I've done this before and the experience (despite the good), is something I do not want to go back to (involves snot and crying). I've moved on, but hearing that this travel will happen again is making me want to book it.
Should I still try to resign asap? If I send a resignation now, it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this trip
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined up. But I'm confident that my experience will get me a suitable job before running out of money. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half of my bank account.
I'm losing sanity :(
Should I resign? Is it professional for me to do so?
resignation
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be decent and professional for me to send my resignation now? Or should I let that pass first then I resign?
It also doesn't help that I seriously do not want this travel as I've done this before and the experience (despite the good), is something I do not want to go back to (involves snot and crying). I've moved on, but hearing that this travel will happen again is making me want to book it.
Should I still try to resign asap? If I send a resignation now, it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this trip
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined up. But I'm confident that my experience will get me a suitable job before running out of money. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half of my bank account.
I'm losing sanity :(
Should I resign? Is it professional for me to do so?
resignation
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@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
5
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
1
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be decent and professional for me to send my resignation now? Or should I let that pass first then I resign?
It also doesn't help that I seriously do not want this travel as I've done this before and the experience (despite the good), is something I do not want to go back to (involves snot and crying). I've moved on, but hearing that this travel will happen again is making me want to book it.
Should I still try to resign asap? If I send a resignation now, it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this trip
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined up. But I'm confident that my experience will get me a suitable job before running out of money. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half of my bank account.
I'm losing sanity :(
Should I resign? Is it professional for me to do so?
resignation
asked 13 hours ago
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be decent and professional for me to send my resignation now? Or should I let that pass first then I resign?
It also doesn't help that I seriously do not want this travel as I've done this before and the experience (despite the good), is something I do not want to go back to (involves snot and crying). I've moved on, but hearing that this travel will happen again is making me want to book it.
Should I still try to resign asap? If I send a resignation now, it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this trip
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined up. But I'm confident that my experience will get me a suitable job before running out of money. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half of my bank account.
I'm losing sanity :(
Should I resign? Is it professional for me to do so?
resignation
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@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
5
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
1
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago
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@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
5
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
1
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago
1
1
@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
5
5
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
1
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
1
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
1
1
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next
month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be
decent and professional for me to send my resignation now?
If you are giving sufficient notice, then it doesn't matter if you resign before or after this trip. Assuming that a month or less notice is required in your locale, then resign when it makes sense for you.
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined
up, but I had recruiters calling me ever since I posted my profile on
a hiring website. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can
probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half
of my bank account.
Don't quit without having another job waiting for you. (Search for other Questions here to learn why that is a bad idea).
Find a new job first. Get and accept a formal offer. Give your notice. Work the notice period. Then leave this job behind.
While seeking your next job, it might make sense to find one that won't involve any travel.
answered 13 hours ago
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
254k1307361049
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
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Maybe talk to your manager? He might be able to help you if you are good at what you do. If it is a part of your job description then it is your job, if you don't want it then apply for another position within the company or apply for a different job.
answered 13 hours ago
Meerfall the dewottMeerfall the dewott
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Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
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There's a couple of issues here
Recruiters calling you means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like saying "I received some spam in my email".
In answer to your most direct question, give your notice when you want to. The upcoming travel is totally irrelevant.
You say
"it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this travel that none of us seem to want"
This is confusing. The business travel is in fact a perfectly good, indeed excellent, reason to resign. You or your colleagues would say to your boss "I'm resigning because I don't want to do those trips." Very simple.
(Obviously you don't have to give any reason when you resign. State the words "I'm resigning." But dislike of the trips is an absolutely good reason to resign.)
It is absolutely commonplace that managers hear things like "I'm resigning because the travel is no good." That's a normal and good reason for resigning.
- You're going to quit without a new job to go to. There are a couple issues here:
4a. You mention that you got some recruiter spam. This means nothing. It could be that you can easily get another job, but, the recruiter spam has no connection one way or another.
4b. As a rule, don't quit until you get a new job. Why would you? Just keep taking the money until you secure a new job.
However...
4c. There are exceptions to this. For software engineers, the market is so hot that you have to reconsider the rule of "don't leave until you have a new job". For programmers, if your speciality is in demand and if you are good and if location is not an issue, there are distinct advantages to "just leaving" and then choosing a new job. The two advantages are folks hiring programmers want them now, now, now; if you're aggressively ready to go see them and indeed start "anytime" it's a huge advantage; secondly, having quit your previous job is a huge mark of confidence, it means you know exactly what you're doing and you're not "just looking", you know what you want.
- Commuting. Commnuting is hell. It sounds like in short you dislike your current job (due to the travel) but you're stuck with it due to the location issues. Could it be you in fact have t move to resolve this issue? If you're trapped you're trapped. Commuting for hours is a non-starter, so, ... is the only solution moving?
But overwhelmingly...
We now know that our OP is a software engineer. In today's market it is almost certainly the case that she can now change from on-site employment to fully-remote employment.
This completely solves all problems:
- OP can still live in the unusual/remote area
- No commuting (at all)
- Escape the current "business trips" company
Easy.
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
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Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
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Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next
month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be
decent and professional for me to send my resignation now?
If you are giving sufficient notice, then it doesn't matter if you resign before or after this trip. Assuming that a month or less notice is required in your locale, then resign when it makes sense for you.
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined
up, but I had recruiters calling me ever since I posted my profile on
a hiring website. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can
probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half
of my bank account.
Don't quit without having another job waiting for you. (Search for other Questions here to learn why that is a bad idea).
Find a new job first. Get and accept a formal offer. Give your notice. Work the notice period. Then leave this job behind.
While seeking your next job, it might make sense to find one that won't involve any travel.
answered 13 hours ago
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
254k1307361049
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next
month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be
decent and professional for me to send my resignation now?
If you are giving sufficient notice, then it doesn't matter if you resign before or after this trip. Assuming that a month or less notice is required in your locale, then resign when it makes sense for you.
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined
up, but I had recruiters calling me ever since I posted my profile on
a hiring website. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can
probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half
of my bank account.
Don't quit without having another job waiting for you. (Search for other Questions here to learn why that is a bad idea).
Find a new job first. Get and accept a formal offer. Give your notice. Work the notice period. Then leave this job behind.
While seeking your next job, it might make sense to find one that won't involve any travel.
answered 13 hours ago
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
254k1307361049
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next
month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be
decent and professional for me to send my resignation now?
If you are giving sufficient notice, then it doesn't matter if you resign before or after this trip. Assuming that a month or less notice is required in your locale, then resign when it makes sense for you.
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined
up, but I had recruiters calling me ever since I posted my profile on
a hiring website. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can
probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half
of my bank account.
Don't quit without having another job waiting for you. (Search for other Questions here to learn why that is a bad idea).
Find a new job first. Get and accept a formal offer. Give your notice. Work the notice period. Then leave this job behind.
While seeking your next job, it might make sense to find one that won't involve any travel.
answered 13 hours ago
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
254k1307361049
Just now a months long business travel is in the works (due next
month) but I really want to leave before this happens, will it be
decent and professional for me to send my resignation now?
If you are giving sufficient notice, then it doesn't matter if you resign before or after this trip. Assuming that a month or less notice is required in your locale, then resign when it makes sense for you.
To explain my situation a bit further; I do not have another job lined
up, but I had recruiters calling me ever since I posted my profile on
a hiring website. Thankfully my financial situation implies I can
probably last being unemployed for 2-3 months without exhausting half
of my bank account.
Don't quit without having another job waiting for you. (Search for other Questions here to learn why that is a bad idea).
Find a new job first. Get and accept a formal offer. Give your notice. Work the notice period. Then leave this job behind.
While seeking your next job, it might make sense to find one that won't involve any travel.
answered 13 hours ago
Joe StrazzereJoe Strazzere
254k1307361049
edited 12 hours ago
answered 13 hours ago
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answered 13 hours ago
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Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
Thank you for this!
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - good luck. Make sure you understand what you are in for, before you accept your next job offer.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
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1
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
One thing. Regarding the usually iron-clad rule that it is pointless to quit before securing the next job. Really, for most programmers in the current environment, this rule is a soft rule.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
1
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
@JoeStrazzere This was actually my first job, and I was only an absorbed intern, so I definitely did not know jack back then. I only accepted it because I learned a lot during my internship and it's 5 minutes away.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
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3
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
@AbanaClara - I understand. Use this as a learning lesson and ask better questions during your interviews.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
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Maybe talk to your manager? He might be able to help you if you are good at what you do. If it is a part of your job description then it is your job, if you don't want it then apply for another position within the company or apply for a different job.
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Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
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Maybe talk to your manager? He might be able to help you if you are good at what you do. If it is a part of your job description then it is your job, if you don't want it then apply for another position within the company or apply for a different job.
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Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
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Maybe talk to your manager? He might be able to help you if you are good at what you do. If it is a part of your job description then it is your job, if you don't want it then apply for another position within the company or apply for a different job.
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Maybe talk to your manager? He might be able to help you if you are good at what you do. If it is a part of your job description then it is your job, if you don't want it then apply for another position within the company or apply for a different job.
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Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
2
2
Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
Actually this is a great answer. Just frankly tell your manager "I won't go on anymore business trips, what to do?" See what they say.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
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There's a couple of issues here
Recruiters calling you means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like saying "I received some spam in my email".
In answer to your most direct question, give your notice when you want to. The upcoming travel is totally irrelevant.
You say
"it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this travel that none of us seem to want"
This is confusing. The business travel is in fact a perfectly good, indeed excellent, reason to resign. You or your colleagues would say to your boss "I'm resigning because I don't want to do those trips." Very simple.
(Obviously you don't have to give any reason when you resign. State the words "I'm resigning." But dislike of the trips is an absolutely good reason to resign.)
It is absolutely commonplace that managers hear things like "I'm resigning because the travel is no good." That's a normal and good reason for resigning.
- You're going to quit without a new job to go to. There are a couple issues here:
4a. You mention that you got some recruiter spam. This means nothing. It could be that you can easily get another job, but, the recruiter spam has no connection one way or another.
4b. As a rule, don't quit until you get a new job. Why would you? Just keep taking the money until you secure a new job.
However...
4c. There are exceptions to this. For software engineers, the market is so hot that you have to reconsider the rule of "don't leave until you have a new job". For programmers, if your speciality is in demand and if you are good and if location is not an issue, there are distinct advantages to "just leaving" and then choosing a new job. The two advantages are folks hiring programmers want them now, now, now; if you're aggressively ready to go see them and indeed start "anytime" it's a huge advantage; secondly, having quit your previous job is a huge mark of confidence, it means you know exactly what you're doing and you're not "just looking", you know what you want.
- Commuting. Commnuting is hell. It sounds like in short you dislike your current job (due to the travel) but you're stuck with it due to the location issues. Could it be you in fact have t move to resolve this issue? If you're trapped you're trapped. Commuting for hours is a non-starter, so, ... is the only solution moving?
But overwhelmingly...
We now know that our OP is a software engineer. In today's market it is almost certainly the case that she can now change from on-site employment to fully-remote employment.
This completely solves all problems:
- OP can still live in the unusual/remote area
- No commuting (at all)
- Escape the current "business trips" company
Easy.
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
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There's a couple of issues here
Recruiters calling you means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like saying "I received some spam in my email".
In answer to your most direct question, give your notice when you want to. The upcoming travel is totally irrelevant.
You say
"it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this travel that none of us seem to want"
This is confusing. The business travel is in fact a perfectly good, indeed excellent, reason to resign. You or your colleagues would say to your boss "I'm resigning because I don't want to do those trips." Very simple.
(Obviously you don't have to give any reason when you resign. State the words "I'm resigning." But dislike of the trips is an absolutely good reason to resign.)
It is absolutely commonplace that managers hear things like "I'm resigning because the travel is no good." That's a normal and good reason for resigning.
- You're going to quit without a new job to go to. There are a couple issues here:
4a. You mention that you got some recruiter spam. This means nothing. It could be that you can easily get another job, but, the recruiter spam has no connection one way or another.
4b. As a rule, don't quit until you get a new job. Why would you? Just keep taking the money until you secure a new job.
However...
4c. There are exceptions to this. For software engineers, the market is so hot that you have to reconsider the rule of "don't leave until you have a new job". For programmers, if your speciality is in demand and if you are good and if location is not an issue, there are distinct advantages to "just leaving" and then choosing a new job. The two advantages are folks hiring programmers want them now, now, now; if you're aggressively ready to go see them and indeed start "anytime" it's a huge advantage; secondly, having quit your previous job is a huge mark of confidence, it means you know exactly what you're doing and you're not "just looking", you know what you want.
- Commuting. Commnuting is hell. It sounds like in short you dislike your current job (due to the travel) but you're stuck with it due to the location issues. Could it be you in fact have t move to resolve this issue? If you're trapped you're trapped. Commuting for hours is a non-starter, so, ... is the only solution moving?
But overwhelmingly...
We now know that our OP is a software engineer. In today's market it is almost certainly the case that she can now change from on-site employment to fully-remote employment.
This completely solves all problems:
- OP can still live in the unusual/remote area
- No commuting (at all)
- Escape the current "business trips" company
Easy.
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
There's a couple of issues here
Recruiters calling you means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like saying "I received some spam in my email".
In answer to your most direct question, give your notice when you want to. The upcoming travel is totally irrelevant.
You say
"it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this travel that none of us seem to want"
This is confusing. The business travel is in fact a perfectly good, indeed excellent, reason to resign. You or your colleagues would say to your boss "I'm resigning because I don't want to do those trips." Very simple.
(Obviously you don't have to give any reason when you resign. State the words "I'm resigning." But dislike of the trips is an absolutely good reason to resign.)
It is absolutely commonplace that managers hear things like "I'm resigning because the travel is no good." That's a normal and good reason for resigning.
- You're going to quit without a new job to go to. There are a couple issues here:
4a. You mention that you got some recruiter spam. This means nothing. It could be that you can easily get another job, but, the recruiter spam has no connection one way or another.
4b. As a rule, don't quit until you get a new job. Why would you? Just keep taking the money until you secure a new job.
However...
4c. There are exceptions to this. For software engineers, the market is so hot that you have to reconsider the rule of "don't leave until you have a new job". For programmers, if your speciality is in demand and if you are good and if location is not an issue, there are distinct advantages to "just leaving" and then choosing a new job. The two advantages are folks hiring programmers want them now, now, now; if you're aggressively ready to go see them and indeed start "anytime" it's a huge advantage; secondly, having quit your previous job is a huge mark of confidence, it means you know exactly what you're doing and you're not "just looking", you know what you want.
- Commuting. Commnuting is hell. It sounds like in short you dislike your current job (due to the travel) but you're stuck with it due to the location issues. Could it be you in fact have t move to resolve this issue? If you're trapped you're trapped. Commuting for hours is a non-starter, so, ... is the only solution moving?
But overwhelmingly...
We now know that our OP is a software engineer. In today's market it is almost certainly the case that she can now change from on-site employment to fully-remote employment.
This completely solves all problems:
- OP can still live in the unusual/remote area
- No commuting (at all)
- Escape the current "business trips" company
Easy.
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
There's a couple of issues here
Recruiters calling you means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like saying "I received some spam in my email".
In answer to your most direct question, give your notice when you want to. The upcoming travel is totally irrelevant.
You say
"it's also gonna appear that I'm someone just trying to avoid this travel that none of us seem to want"
This is confusing. The business travel is in fact a perfectly good, indeed excellent, reason to resign. You or your colleagues would say to your boss "I'm resigning because I don't want to do those trips." Very simple.
(Obviously you don't have to give any reason when you resign. State the words "I'm resigning." But dislike of the trips is an absolutely good reason to resign.)
It is absolutely commonplace that managers hear things like "I'm resigning because the travel is no good." That's a normal and good reason for resigning.
- You're going to quit without a new job to go to. There are a couple issues here:
4a. You mention that you got some recruiter spam. This means nothing. It could be that you can easily get another job, but, the recruiter spam has no connection one way or another.
4b. As a rule, don't quit until you get a new job. Why would you? Just keep taking the money until you secure a new job.
However...
4c. There are exceptions to this. For software engineers, the market is so hot that you have to reconsider the rule of "don't leave until you have a new job". For programmers, if your speciality is in demand and if you are good and if location is not an issue, there are distinct advantages to "just leaving" and then choosing a new job. The two advantages are folks hiring programmers want them now, now, now; if you're aggressively ready to go see them and indeed start "anytime" it's a huge advantage; secondly, having quit your previous job is a huge mark of confidence, it means you know exactly what you're doing and you're not "just looking", you know what you want.
- Commuting. Commnuting is hell. It sounds like in short you dislike your current job (due to the travel) but you're stuck with it due to the location issues. Could it be you in fact have t move to resolve this issue? If you're trapped you're trapped. Commuting for hours is a non-starter, so, ... is the only solution moving?
But overwhelmingly...
We now know that our OP is a software engineer. In today's market it is almost certainly the case that she can now change from on-site employment to fully-remote employment.
This completely solves all problems:
- OP can still live in the unusual/remote area
- No commuting (at all)
- Escape the current "business trips" company
Easy.
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
edited 12 hours ago
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
answered 12 hours ago
FattieFattie
13.6k62444
13.6k62444
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
Thanks for this input. I am only a young'in who has zero experience with this so please pardon me but learned a lot from this. It's on point, I'm a software engineer/web developer. I can't say I am absolutely in-demand or do I poop absolutely good products, but I think my skillset is somewhere out there.
– Abana Clara
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
You get old fast programming :) Please do note that (1) yes, as a programmer the market is insanely high at the moment, but (2) just be aware that the recruiter calls are simply spam. All programmers get saturation messages from recruiters, it means nothing.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
ah - ok now that we know the situation. i've edited in the actual answer down the bottom, @AbanaClara ! Enjoy !
– Fattie
12 hours ago
1
1
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
hi @AbanaClara this is another topic, but, 2 years is a long, long, long time for your first job. I'd say you need to move on promptly to develop and accelerate your earning (and skills). Again it's another topic. Good luck.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
3
3
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
I disagree that having quit your previous job is a mark of confidence. As a recruiter it tells me there was some conflict with your previous employer that was so bad you ran away without having a safety net, or you resigned before being forced to leave. It's not necessarily a problem, but it's not usually a positive.
– thelem
11 hours ago
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@AbanaClara - so you've been required to travel for this company before, but didn't like the experience? Did you discuss it with your manager and indicate that you don't want to do that again?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
5
the "recruiters calling" means absolutely nothing. that is just spam.
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@AbanaClara - it's unfortunate you never discussed this with your boss. And now you waited until shortly before your next travel, rather than immediately looking for a new job. Oh well, nothing you can do about that now.
– Joe Strazzere
12 hours ago
1
@Kyralessa the last trip didn't go too well for me and my boss and it got toxic and personal and I cried. Didnt help that we were living in the same dayme apartment during the stay, and definitely still would next month.
– Abana Clara
10 hours ago
1
Which country is this in, and what notice period applies? (In the UK, for example, notice period is usually spelled out in the employment contract, though it's up to the employer whether they make you work your notice; if so, you can still take any holiday due.)
– gidds
10 hours ago