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Were any external disk drives stacked vertically?


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There was a time when floppy disk drives were big, expensive devices that in many cases, instead of being components of a computer, would be separate machines connected by a cable, in some cases with their own CPU. A well-known example was the Commodore 1541, which had a similar CPU to the Commodore 64.



I personally only ever had one external drive, but when you look at photographs of setups with two drives (very desirable if you could afford it), they are always side-by-side, taking up an awful lot of desk space. Even the CBM 4040 dual drive, places the drives side-by-side in a single very wide case.



It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall, the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically. Maybe this would result in each drive picking up heat and vibration from the other one, but if this was tolerable when they were stacked vertically in a PC tower case, why not for external drives?



Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically? If not, why not?










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    Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

    – Raffzahn
    14 hours ago






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    @Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

    – tofro
    13 hours ago













  • @Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

    – rwallace
    12 hours ago






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    @tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

    – Glen Yates
    8 hours ago






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    Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

    – another-dave
    7 hours ago
















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There was a time when floppy disk drives were big, expensive devices that in many cases, instead of being components of a computer, would be separate machines connected by a cable, in some cases with their own CPU. A well-known example was the Commodore 1541, which had a similar CPU to the Commodore 64.



I personally only ever had one external drive, but when you look at photographs of setups with two drives (very desirable if you could afford it), they are always side-by-side, taking up an awful lot of desk space. Even the CBM 4040 dual drive, places the drives side-by-side in a single very wide case.



It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall, the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically. Maybe this would result in each drive picking up heat and vibration from the other one, but if this was tolerable when they were stacked vertically in a PC tower case, why not for external drives?



Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically? If not, why not?










share|improve this question


















  • 1





    Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

    – Raffzahn
    14 hours ago






  • 2





    @Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

    – tofro
    13 hours ago













  • @Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

    – rwallace
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    @tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

    – Glen Yates
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

    – another-dave
    7 hours ago














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There was a time when floppy disk drives were big, expensive devices that in many cases, instead of being components of a computer, would be separate machines connected by a cable, in some cases with their own CPU. A well-known example was the Commodore 1541, which had a similar CPU to the Commodore 64.



I personally only ever had one external drive, but when you look at photographs of setups with two drives (very desirable if you could afford it), they are always side-by-side, taking up an awful lot of desk space. Even the CBM 4040 dual drive, places the drives side-by-side in a single very wide case.



It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall, the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically. Maybe this would result in each drive picking up heat and vibration from the other one, but if this was tolerable when they were stacked vertically in a PC tower case, why not for external drives?



Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically? If not, why not?










share|improve this question














There was a time when floppy disk drives were big, expensive devices that in many cases, instead of being components of a computer, would be separate machines connected by a cable, in some cases with their own CPU. A well-known example was the Commodore 1541, which had a similar CPU to the Commodore 64.



I personally only ever had one external drive, but when you look at photographs of setups with two drives (very desirable if you could afford it), they are always side-by-side, taking up an awful lot of desk space. Even the CBM 4040 dual drive, places the drives side-by-side in a single very wide case.



It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall, the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically. Maybe this would result in each drive picking up heat and vibration from the other one, but if this was tolerable when they were stacked vertically in a PC tower case, why not for external drives?



Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically? If not, why not?







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  • 1





    Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

    – Raffzahn
    14 hours ago






  • 2





    @Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

    – tofro
    13 hours ago













  • @Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

    – rwallace
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    @tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

    – Glen Yates
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

    – another-dave
    7 hours ago














  • 1





    Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

    – Raffzahn
    14 hours ago






  • 2





    @Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

    – tofro
    13 hours ago













  • @Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

    – rwallace
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    @tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

    – Glen Yates
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

    – another-dave
    7 hours ago








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Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

– Raffzahn
14 hours ago





Since there is no reason to prefer any orientation, this question asks for opinions about design, thus not realy OT at all.

– Raffzahn
14 hours ago




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@Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

– tofro
13 hours ago







@Raffzahn and here we agree ;) Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down...

– tofro
13 hours ago















@Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

– rwallace
12 hours ago





@Raffzahn I asked whether external disk drives were in fact ever stacked vertically (historical fact), and if not, why not - the intent of that part was whether there was some technical reason why not. As it turns out, the answer is yes, there were lots of vertically stacked disk drives, so it resolves to a matter of historical fact, not opinion at all.

– rwallace
12 hours ago




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@tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

– Glen Yates
8 hours ago





@tofro, "Any orientation is allowed on floppies except upside-down" - And here, I will disagree, as upside-down is certainly a valid orientation for floppies. In fact, back in the day, I cut notches into quite a number of floppies so I could put them in upside-down and double my storage capacity.

– Glen Yates
8 hours ago




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Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

– another-dave
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Why not? Because racks are 19" wide :-)

– another-dave
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It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall,




To me they are taller than wide. After all, that's as well the orientation IBM did put the very first drive, so anything else is plain wrong, isn't it :))




the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically.




That's pure opinion and up to the designer how he imagines a drive to look best or fit best. The drives itself work in any orientation with any angle equally well.




It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices




As said before, they are not, they work in any orientation. At least as long as we talk about the technology. If at all, any orientation can come from ball bearing involved. Except, for simple low speed application next to any standard bearing will offer the needed support strength - if that drive has one at all.




Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically?




It has been used in any kombination you may thing of.




  • Horizontal side by side like in a DEC RX01/02 - as that will need less HE in a rack


enter image description here




  • Horizontal above each other like the Atari 815


enter image description here




  • Vertical side by side like IBM's 6330 8" drive


enter image description here




  • Vertical above each other (Again DEC computers)


(Still looking for the right picture)




  • Or even both like with a Heathkit H17 case where two dives were mounted horizontal side by side, but when a third drive got added they where turned vertical to fit the case.


enter image description hereenter image description here




  • Heck, they where even Computers mouting them both way at the same time:


enter image description here




  • And then there was the DEC RX-50 dual drive, used in PCs to be placed either as desktop (with the drive horizontal) or tower (now vertical), whatever fits the desk.


enter image description here



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  • I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

    – Valorum
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    @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

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Yes; this was standard procedure for at least the BBC Micro:



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Including for third-party drives:



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Presumably because two drives arranged that way were only just taller than the machine itself:



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    To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

    – Kaz
    12 hours ago






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    Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

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  1. I don't think your claim that never happened is generally true

  2. It makes a lot of sense to put drives side by side when you want to place the drive set between computer and CRT (like many Apple users did). That wouldn't work well with stacks.

  3. Especially twin 3 1/2" drives were very often sold as vertical stacks. But some vendors also did the same with the larger drive sets

  4. If you look at earlier drives, 2 x 5 1/4 full-height drives stacked on top of the other really would be awkward to handle (but, see here) - that simply looks clunky.


Other than that, I don't see a technical reason why you wouldn't want to stack drives on top of the others. The frames of 5 1/4 drives are mostly aluminium castings, so stable enough to stack, and heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives.



German Wikipedia seems to know how to stack Commodore 4040 drives as well. You simply need to have enough of them ;)






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    "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

    – traal
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  • @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

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  • On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

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In the TRS-80 Model I and Model II ecosystems, floppy drives normally had the disk oriented vertically. This made the drives "tall rather than wide", and placing multiple drives side-by-side worked well.



In the Model III, two horizontal drives were stacked vertically in the main housing, to the right of the CRT (and above the numeric keypad).






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    One configuration I think Raffzahn missed so far was two independent drives stacked on top of each other. That was the recommended method for multiple Amstrad 3" drives:
    amstrad cpc464



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      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall,




      To me they are taller than wide. After all, that's as well the orientation IBM did put the very first drive, so anything else is plain wrong, isn't it :))




      the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically.




      That's pure opinion and up to the designer how he imagines a drive to look best or fit best. The drives itself work in any orientation with any angle equally well.




      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices




      As said before, they are not, they work in any orientation. At least as long as we talk about the technology. If at all, any orientation can come from ball bearing involved. Except, for simple low speed application next to any standard bearing will offer the needed support strength - if that drive has one at all.




      Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically?




      It has been used in any kombination you may thing of.




      • Horizontal side by side like in a DEC RX01/02 - as that will need less HE in a rack


      enter image description here




      • Horizontal above each other like the Atari 815


      enter image description here




      • Vertical side by side like IBM's 6330 8" drive


      enter image description here




      • Vertical above each other (Again DEC computers)


      (Still looking for the right picture)




      • Or even both like with a Heathkit H17 case where two dives were mounted horizontal side by side, but when a third drive got added they where turned vertical to fit the case.


      enter image description hereenter image description here




      • Heck, they where even Computers mouting them both way at the same time:


      enter image description here




      • And then there was the DEC RX-50 dual drive, used in PCs to be placed either as desktop (with the drive horizontal) or tower (now vertical), whatever fits the desk.


      enter image description here



      enter image description hereenter image description here






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      • I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

        – Valorum
        7 hours ago








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        @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

        – Raffzahn
        7 hours ago
















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      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall,




      To me they are taller than wide. After all, that's as well the orientation IBM did put the very first drive, so anything else is plain wrong, isn't it :))




      the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically.




      That's pure opinion and up to the designer how he imagines a drive to look best or fit best. The drives itself work in any orientation with any angle equally well.




      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices




      As said before, they are not, they work in any orientation. At least as long as we talk about the technology. If at all, any orientation can come from ball bearing involved. Except, for simple low speed application next to any standard bearing will offer the needed support strength - if that drive has one at all.




      Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically?




      It has been used in any kombination you may thing of.




      • Horizontal side by side like in a DEC RX01/02 - as that will need less HE in a rack


      enter image description here




      • Horizontal above each other like the Atari 815


      enter image description here




      • Vertical side by side like IBM's 6330 8" drive


      enter image description here




      • Vertical above each other (Again DEC computers)


      (Still looking for the right picture)




      • Or even both like with a Heathkit H17 case where two dives were mounted horizontal side by side, but when a third drive got added they where turned vertical to fit the case.


      enter image description hereenter image description here




      • Heck, they where even Computers mouting them both way at the same time:


      enter image description here




      • And then there was the DEC RX-50 dual drive, used in PCs to be placed either as desktop (with the drive horizontal) or tower (now vertical), whatever fits the desk.


      enter image description here



      enter image description hereenter image description here






      share|improve this answer


























      • I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

        – Valorum
        7 hours ago








      • 1





        @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

        – Raffzahn
        7 hours ago














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      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall,




      To me they are taller than wide. After all, that's as well the orientation IBM did put the very first drive, so anything else is plain wrong, isn't it :))




      the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically.




      That's pure opinion and up to the designer how he imagines a drive to look best or fit best. The drives itself work in any orientation with any angle equally well.




      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices




      As said before, they are not, they work in any orientation. At least as long as we talk about the technology. If at all, any orientation can come from ball bearing involved. Except, for simple low speed application next to any standard bearing will offer the needed support strength - if that drive has one at all.




      Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically?




      It has been used in any kombination you may thing of.




      • Horizontal side by side like in a DEC RX01/02 - as that will need less HE in a rack


      enter image description here




      • Horizontal above each other like the Atari 815


      enter image description here




      • Vertical side by side like IBM's 6330 8" drive


      enter image description here




      • Vertical above each other (Again DEC computers)


      (Still looking for the right picture)




      • Or even both like with a Heathkit H17 case where two dives were mounted horizontal side by side, but when a third drive got added they where turned vertical to fit the case.


      enter image description hereenter image description here




      • Heck, they where even Computers mouting them both way at the same time:


      enter image description here




      • And then there was the DEC RX-50 dual drive, used in PCs to be placed either as desktop (with the drive horizontal) or tower (now vertical), whatever fits the desk.


      enter image description here



      enter image description hereenter image description here






      share|improve this answer
















      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices that want to be wide rather than tall,




      To me they are taller than wide. After all, that's as well the orientation IBM did put the very first drive, so anything else is plain wrong, isn't it :))




      the obvious solution would be to stack them vertically.




      That's pure opinion and up to the designer how he imagines a drive to look best or fit best. The drives itself work in any orientation with any angle equally well.




      It seems to me that since disk drives are fundamentally horizontal devices




      As said before, they are not, they work in any orientation. At least as long as we talk about the technology. If at all, any orientation can come from ball bearing involved. Except, for simple low speed application next to any standard bearing will offer the needed support strength - if that drive has one at all.




      Were external disk drives ever stacked vertically?




      It has been used in any kombination you may thing of.




      • Horizontal side by side like in a DEC RX01/02 - as that will need less HE in a rack


      enter image description here




      • Horizontal above each other like the Atari 815


      enter image description here




      • Vertical side by side like IBM's 6330 8" drive


      enter image description here




      • Vertical above each other (Again DEC computers)


      (Still looking for the right picture)




      • Or even both like with a Heathkit H17 case where two dives were mounted horizontal side by side, but when a third drive got added they where turned vertical to fit the case.


      enter image description hereenter image description here




      • Heck, they where even Computers mouting them both way at the same time:


      enter image description here




      • And then there was the DEC RX-50 dual drive, used in PCs to be placed either as desktop (with the drive horizontal) or tower (now vertical), whatever fits the desk.


      enter image description here



      enter image description hereenter image description here







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      • I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

        – Valorum
        7 hours ago








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        @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

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        7 hours ago



















      • I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

        – Valorum
        7 hours ago








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        @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

        – Raffzahn
        7 hours ago

















      I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

      – Valorum
      7 hours ago







      I'm disappointed to see that you've not included any examples of them being oriented vertically and then stacked on top of each other

      – Valorum
      7 hours ago






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      @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

      – Raffzahn
      7 hours ago





      @Valorum I'm so sorry, there is a DEC machine doing exactly this, but I couldn't find any worthwhile picture so far. Shame on me.

      – Raffzahn
      7 hours ago











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      Yes; this was standard procedure for at least the BBC Micro:



      enter image description here



      Including for third-party drives:



      enter image description here



      Presumably because two drives arranged that way were only just taller than the machine itself:



      enter image description here






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        To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago






      • 1





        Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago
















      10














      Yes; this was standard procedure for at least the BBC Micro:



      enter image description here



      Including for third-party drives:



      enter image description here



      Presumably because two drives arranged that way were only just taller than the machine itself:



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer



















      • 2





        To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago






      • 1





        Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago














      10












      10








      10







      Yes; this was standard procedure for at least the BBC Micro:



      enter image description here



      Including for third-party drives:



      enter image description here



      Presumably because two drives arranged that way were only just taller than the machine itself:



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer













      Yes; this was standard procedure for at least the BBC Micro:



      enter image description here



      Including for third-party drives:



      enter image description here



      Presumably because two drives arranged that way were only just taller than the machine itself:



      enter image description here







      share|improve this answer












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      answered 14 hours ago









      TommyTommy

      16k14678




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      • 2





        To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago






      • 1





        Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago














      • 2





        To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago






      • 1





        Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

        – Kaz
        12 hours ago








      2




      2





      To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

      – Kaz
      12 hours ago





      To my mind, the initial reason for stacking two half-height 5 1/4" drives on top of one another like that was because they take up the same space as a single full-height drive. Compare the BBC-branded AND02 twin half-height drives in your third photo with the AND-01 single full-height drive pictured at chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/8bit_Upgrades/… . They appear to have used the exact same outer casing for both models.

      – Kaz
      12 hours ago




      1




      1





      Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

      – Kaz
      12 hours ago





      Though it should also be noted that some drive sets for the BBC Micros put the drives side-by side, see chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/Master512.html and chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/Computers/BBCBI3.html

      – Kaz
      12 hours ago











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      1. I don't think your claim that never happened is generally true

      2. It makes a lot of sense to put drives side by side when you want to place the drive set between computer and CRT (like many Apple users did). That wouldn't work well with stacks.

      3. Especially twin 3 1/2" drives were very often sold as vertical stacks. But some vendors also did the same with the larger drive sets

      4. If you look at earlier drives, 2 x 5 1/4 full-height drives stacked on top of the other really would be awkward to handle (but, see here) - that simply looks clunky.


      Other than that, I don't see a technical reason why you wouldn't want to stack drives on top of the others. The frames of 5 1/4 drives are mostly aluminium castings, so stable enough to stack, and heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives.



      German Wikipedia seems to know how to stack Commodore 4040 drives as well. You simply need to have enough of them ;)






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        "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

        – traal
        11 hours ago











      • @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

        – tofro
        11 hours ago











      • On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

        – traal
        11 hours ago
















      5















      1. I don't think your claim that never happened is generally true

      2. It makes a lot of sense to put drives side by side when you want to place the drive set between computer and CRT (like many Apple users did). That wouldn't work well with stacks.

      3. Especially twin 3 1/2" drives were very often sold as vertical stacks. But some vendors also did the same with the larger drive sets

      4. If you look at earlier drives, 2 x 5 1/4 full-height drives stacked on top of the other really would be awkward to handle (but, see here) - that simply looks clunky.


      Other than that, I don't see a technical reason why you wouldn't want to stack drives on top of the others. The frames of 5 1/4 drives are mostly aluminium castings, so stable enough to stack, and heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives.



      German Wikipedia seems to know how to stack Commodore 4040 drives as well. You simply need to have enough of them ;)






      share|improve this answer





















      • 1





        "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

        – traal
        11 hours ago











      • @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

        – tofro
        11 hours ago











      • On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

        – traal
        11 hours ago














      5












      5








      5








      1. I don't think your claim that never happened is generally true

      2. It makes a lot of sense to put drives side by side when you want to place the drive set between computer and CRT (like many Apple users did). That wouldn't work well with stacks.

      3. Especially twin 3 1/2" drives were very often sold as vertical stacks. But some vendors also did the same with the larger drive sets

      4. If you look at earlier drives, 2 x 5 1/4 full-height drives stacked on top of the other really would be awkward to handle (but, see here) - that simply looks clunky.


      Other than that, I don't see a technical reason why you wouldn't want to stack drives on top of the others. The frames of 5 1/4 drives are mostly aluminium castings, so stable enough to stack, and heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives.



      German Wikipedia seems to know how to stack Commodore 4040 drives as well. You simply need to have enough of them ;)






      share|improve this answer
















      1. I don't think your claim that never happened is generally true

      2. It makes a lot of sense to put drives side by side when you want to place the drive set between computer and CRT (like many Apple users did). That wouldn't work well with stacks.

      3. Especially twin 3 1/2" drives were very often sold as vertical stacks. But some vendors also did the same with the larger drive sets

      4. If you look at earlier drives, 2 x 5 1/4 full-height drives stacked on top of the other really would be awkward to handle (but, see here) - that simply looks clunky.


      Other than that, I don't see a technical reason why you wouldn't want to stack drives on top of the others. The frames of 5 1/4 drives are mostly aluminium castings, so stable enough to stack, and heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives.



      German Wikipedia seems to know how to stack Commodore 4040 drives as well. You simply need to have enough of them ;)







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      answered 16 hours ago









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        "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

        – traal
        11 hours ago











      • @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

        – tofro
        11 hours ago











      • On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

        – traal
        11 hours ago














      • 1





        "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

        – traal
        11 hours ago











      • @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

        – tofro
        11 hours ago











      • On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

        – traal
        11 hours ago








      1




      1





      "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

      – traal
      11 hours ago





      "Heat really shouldn't be a problem with floppy drives." That's true but the power supply generates heat.

      – traal
      11 hours ago













      @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

      – tofro
      11 hours ago





      @traal but you won't stack the power supply?

      – tofro
      11 hours ago













      On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

      – traal
      11 hours ago





      On the top or the bottom? Passive or active cooling?

      – traal
      11 hours ago











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      In the TRS-80 Model I and Model II ecosystems, floppy drives normally had the disk oriented vertically. This made the drives "tall rather than wide", and placing multiple drives side-by-side worked well.



      In the Model III, two horizontal drives were stacked vertically in the main housing, to the right of the CRT (and above the numeric keypad).






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        In the TRS-80 Model I and Model II ecosystems, floppy drives normally had the disk oriented vertically. This made the drives "tall rather than wide", and placing multiple drives side-by-side worked well.



        In the Model III, two horizontal drives were stacked vertically in the main housing, to the right of the CRT (and above the numeric keypad).






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          In the TRS-80 Model I and Model II ecosystems, floppy drives normally had the disk oriented vertically. This made the drives "tall rather than wide", and placing multiple drives side-by-side worked well.



          In the Model III, two horizontal drives were stacked vertically in the main housing, to the right of the CRT (and above the numeric keypad).






          share|improve this answer













          In the TRS-80 Model I and Model II ecosystems, floppy drives normally had the disk oriented vertically. This made the drives "tall rather than wide", and placing multiple drives side-by-side worked well.



          In the Model III, two horizontal drives were stacked vertically in the main housing, to the right of the CRT (and above the numeric keypad).







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          answered 14 hours ago









          jeffBjeffB

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              One configuration I think Raffzahn missed so far was two independent drives stacked on top of each other. That was the recommended method for multiple Amstrad 3" drives:
              amstrad cpc464



              (Image source: Gallery - Category: CPC464 - Image: CPC464 (b) setup - Roland in the caves)






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                One configuration I think Raffzahn missed so far was two independent drives stacked on top of each other. That was the recommended method for multiple Amstrad 3" drives:
                amstrad cpc464



                (Image source: Gallery - Category: CPC464 - Image: CPC464 (b) setup - Roland in the caves)






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                  One configuration I think Raffzahn missed so far was two independent drives stacked on top of each other. That was the recommended method for multiple Amstrad 3" drives:
                  amstrad cpc464



                  (Image source: Gallery - Category: CPC464 - Image: CPC464 (b) setup - Roland in the caves)






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                  One configuration I think Raffzahn missed so far was two independent drives stacked on top of each other. That was the recommended method for multiple Amstrad 3" drives:
                  amstrad cpc464



                  (Image source: Gallery - Category: CPC464 - Image: CPC464 (b) setup - Roland in the caves)







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