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How to politely respond to generic emails requesting a PhD/job in my lab? Without wasting too much time
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As I transition to faculty, I have increasingly gotten requests from people who want to do PhD's with me or want postdocs in my lab.
Often these emails are extremely generic and don't suggest they know anything about my research. The descriptions of themselves suggests they've mostly studied completely unrelated topics to my research field (even as broadly defined as the topic at even the department level).
I probably get at least one of these emails per day now (during graduate student application season), so it would be too cumbersome to send out a personalised response email to each one. And I imagine the volume will only increase if/when I become more established.
Most faculty surely just ignore/delete these types of emails, but I feel bad that these students appear to have gotten terrible (or no) advice about how to contact a prospective advisor, and I want to be helpful. How should I reply?
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As I transition to faculty, I have increasingly gotten requests from people who want to do PhD's with me or want postdocs in my lab.
Often these emails are extremely generic and don't suggest they know anything about my research. The descriptions of themselves suggests they've mostly studied completely unrelated topics to my research field (even as broadly defined as the topic at even the department level).
I probably get at least one of these emails per day now (during graduate student application season), so it would be too cumbersome to send out a personalised response email to each one. And I imagine the volume will only increase if/when I become more established.
Most faculty surely just ignore/delete these types of emails, but I feel bad that these students appear to have gotten terrible (or no) advice about how to contact a prospective advisor, and I want to be helpful. How should I reply?
phd graduate-admissions application email
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I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
21
Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
2
Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
3
I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
1
@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago
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As I transition to faculty, I have increasingly gotten requests from people who want to do PhD's with me or want postdocs in my lab.
Often these emails are extremely generic and don't suggest they know anything about my research. The descriptions of themselves suggests they've mostly studied completely unrelated topics to my research field (even as broadly defined as the topic at even the department level).
I probably get at least one of these emails per day now (during graduate student application season), so it would be too cumbersome to send out a personalised response email to each one. And I imagine the volume will only increase if/when I become more established.
Most faculty surely just ignore/delete these types of emails, but I feel bad that these students appear to have gotten terrible (or no) advice about how to contact a prospective advisor, and I want to be helpful. How should I reply?
phd graduate-admissions application email
As I transition to faculty, I have increasingly gotten requests from people who want to do PhD's with me or want postdocs in my lab.
Often these emails are extremely generic and don't suggest they know anything about my research. The descriptions of themselves suggests they've mostly studied completely unrelated topics to my research field (even as broadly defined as the topic at even the department level).
I probably get at least one of these emails per day now (during graduate student application season), so it would be too cumbersome to send out a personalised response email to each one. And I imagine the volume will only increase if/when I become more established.
Most faculty surely just ignore/delete these types of emails, but I feel bad that these students appear to have gotten terrible (or no) advice about how to contact a prospective advisor, and I want to be helpful. How should I reply?
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I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
21
Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
2
Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
3
I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
1
@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
7
I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
21
Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
2
Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
3
I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
1
@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago
7
7
I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
21
21
Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
2
2
Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
3
3
I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
1
1
@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago
@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago
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What I currently do is save the following text on my computer, and simply paste it in an email response every time I receive this type of email.
I'm sorry to say that this email is too generic for me to consider you as a future PhD student working with me. Unfortunately, it doesn't demonstrate that you know what topics I work on. I'd recommend in the future sending only a few emails. Focus on max 10 or so potential supervisors that really fit your specific research interest. Explain what specifically drew you to them as a supervisor. Explain what you want to work on with them. You should have read one of their papers or at minimum read a description of their research from their webpage. The type of email you wrote will get very few responses because we receive several such emails. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh. I hope you might take this advice and improve next time if you send more emails in the future - because I really do want you to succeed.
Here is an example of what I sent to my prospective PhD advisor 10 years ago. I only emailed 6 professors, because I really wanted to
spend a lot of time tailoring my email to their interests and
convincing them I wanted to work on the things they worked on.
"My name is _______ and I am a senior majoring in _______ at _______ University. I am interested in working in your lab during graduate
studies at _______ because I want to do research in _______.
Your website especially stood out because you state that you encourage independent research and team work. Currently, I am
collaborating with six other students doing _________. We defined our
own research question, and although it was the toughest part of the
project it was the most rewarding. During this project, I first came
across your early work on _______ - and further reading some of your
newer papers ______ & ______, I really like the diversity of the
problems in your lab. It seems like a really exciting lab to be part
of.
Specifically, I am most interested in doing research in _______. I am in the beginning phase of drafting an NSF graduate research fellowship
application on the topic.
I was wondering if you will have any openings for new graduate students in your lab this coming year? Any comments or feedback would be greatly appreciated."
cheers,
-Dr X
Note I've redacted some info from my sample letter (replacing it with "____"s)to mask the identity of my advisor, (but I don't do that in my email to the student). It's important to note that the blanks include info that shows I knew about that professor's research and that I had worked on similar things.
The goal being to provide them useful advice that they might take and become more successful in the future. Often these students come from disadvantaged backgrounds or from developing countries and I think it is really important to try to help them and not just ignore their emails. Of course, as one becomes more well known, even this strategy might prove to be cumbersome.
Over this past graduate student application season, nearly all of the students I sent this email response to were gushing with gratitude for the advice.
16
Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
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If I am not especially interested in the student's profile, I simply delete the email. If no effort whatsoever was spent by the sender to address an email to me personally, I don't feel like I have a duty to respond to it.
If I am interested by the student's profile and they have just been clueless about how to get in touch with potential supervisors, you can answer generic advice as suggested in @WetlabStudent's answer, or you can write a one-line generic answer like "Thanks for reaching out. What would specifically interest you in working with me?" and give the student a chance to be more specific.
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
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In our department, we forward those emails to the department administrator, who replies with a polite but generic e-mail encouraging prospective students to apply via our normal procedure. However, that’s a bit above and beyond, and I realize many departments don’t offer such a service to their faculty.
In lieu of that, if you are a Gmail user, I recommend the “canned responses” feature, which is even easier than the copy and paste approach IMO.
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You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
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Life is about setting goals and priorities.
If your goal is to be a saint, then spend time helping these random unknown individuals to fulfil their ambitions. If not, just hit "delete".
Nobody can tell you whether to aspire to sainthood or to winning a Nobel Prize for your academic work (or something in between those extremes), but history suggests that trying achieve both simultaneously doesn't work.
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It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
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@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
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It seems like the consensus here about replying to generic emails with canned emails. I have nothing to add to the existing answers, except a technical solution to make the process of copy-pasting the emails easier. Two software I can recommend for Windows users are PhraseExpress and AutoHotkey. The former has a GUI and can sync with your phone, the latter gives you more flexibility.
For AutoHotKey, use:
:*:cemail::
SendRaw,
(
text text text
)
return
So every time you type cemail
(shorted for "canned email"), text text text
will be auto-typed. If you need to customize the text, use InputBox
.
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Interesting question. I went through the application process a few years ago, and quite a few professors never responded, and to be honest I think that's perfectly okay, and have told many of my friends to expect no reply when applying. If you really want to, I'd keep it brief and say basically that you're looking for students with a clearer idea of their research topics and ones who know better what you are studying. and then tell them best of luck.
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Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
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Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
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In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
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How to politely respond to generic emails
Don't. If the email is unsolicited, you're not obliged to answer.
I know that this goes against our inner moral compass, but think of it this way: sending email is quick and easy. Too quick and too easy. Those people most likely have put less effort into sending such email than the effort you have put into reading it! It's you who's at disadvantage here. Responding is nothing short of letting yourself to be robbed of even more time against your will. That's why your colleagues just delete them. Don't feel bad for ignoring bad mails.
In fact, feel bad for replying! If you reply to bad mails, you're only showing that their strategy is working and encourage them to keep sending more. You're helping by ignoring.
You want to be helpful. But they're not asking for your help, they're asking for a specific favor. What you're currently doing is unsolicited advice, as unsolicited as their spam. And like most unsolicited things it only makes everything worse. You'll be seen as condescending and patronizing. You're basically saying "be more like me and less yourself". Nobody wants to hear that. You're not helping anyone, you just make yourself feel better about being yourself.
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What I currently do is save the following text on my computer, and simply paste it in an email response every time I receive this type of email.
I'm sorry to say that this email is too generic for me to consider you as a future PhD student working with me. Unfortunately, it doesn't demonstrate that you know what topics I work on. I'd recommend in the future sending only a few emails. Focus on max 10 or so potential supervisors that really fit your specific research interest. Explain what specifically drew you to them as a supervisor. Explain what you want to work on with them. You should have read one of their papers or at minimum read a description of their research from their webpage. The type of email you wrote will get very few responses because we receive several such emails. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh. I hope you might take this advice and improve next time if you send more emails in the future - because I really do want you to succeed.
Here is an example of what I sent to my prospective PhD advisor 10 years ago. I only emailed 6 professors, because I really wanted to
spend a lot of time tailoring my email to their interests and
convincing them I wanted to work on the things they worked on.
"My name is _______ and I am a senior majoring in _______ at _______ University. I am interested in working in your lab during graduate
studies at _______ because I want to do research in _______.
Your website especially stood out because you state that you encourage independent research and team work. Currently, I am
collaborating with six other students doing _________. We defined our
own research question, and although it was the toughest part of the
project it was the most rewarding. During this project, I first came
across your early work on _______ - and further reading some of your
newer papers ______ & ______, I really like the diversity of the
problems in your lab. It seems like a really exciting lab to be part
of.
Specifically, I am most interested in doing research in _______. I am in the beginning phase of drafting an NSF graduate research fellowship
application on the topic.
I was wondering if you will have any openings for new graduate students in your lab this coming year? Any comments or feedback would be greatly appreciated."
cheers,
-Dr X
Note I've redacted some info from my sample letter (replacing it with "____"s)to mask the identity of my advisor, (but I don't do that in my email to the student). It's important to note that the blanks include info that shows I knew about that professor's research and that I had worked on similar things.
The goal being to provide them useful advice that they might take and become more successful in the future. Often these students come from disadvantaged backgrounds or from developing countries and I think it is really important to try to help them and not just ignore their emails. Of course, as one becomes more well known, even this strategy might prove to be cumbersome.
Over this past graduate student application season, nearly all of the students I sent this email response to were gushing with gratitude for the advice.
16
Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
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What I currently do is save the following text on my computer, and simply paste it in an email response every time I receive this type of email.
I'm sorry to say that this email is too generic for me to consider you as a future PhD student working with me. Unfortunately, it doesn't demonstrate that you know what topics I work on. I'd recommend in the future sending only a few emails. Focus on max 10 or so potential supervisors that really fit your specific research interest. Explain what specifically drew you to them as a supervisor. Explain what you want to work on with them. You should have read one of their papers or at minimum read a description of their research from their webpage. The type of email you wrote will get very few responses because we receive several such emails. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh. I hope you might take this advice and improve next time if you send more emails in the future - because I really do want you to succeed.
Here is an example of what I sent to my prospective PhD advisor 10 years ago. I only emailed 6 professors, because I really wanted to
spend a lot of time tailoring my email to their interests and
convincing them I wanted to work on the things they worked on.
"My name is _______ and I am a senior majoring in _______ at _______ University. I am interested in working in your lab during graduate
studies at _______ because I want to do research in _______.
Your website especially stood out because you state that you encourage independent research and team work. Currently, I am
collaborating with six other students doing _________. We defined our
own research question, and although it was the toughest part of the
project it was the most rewarding. During this project, I first came
across your early work on _______ - and further reading some of your
newer papers ______ & ______, I really like the diversity of the
problems in your lab. It seems like a really exciting lab to be part
of.
Specifically, I am most interested in doing research in _______. I am in the beginning phase of drafting an NSF graduate research fellowship
application on the topic.
I was wondering if you will have any openings for new graduate students in your lab this coming year? Any comments or feedback would be greatly appreciated."
cheers,
-Dr X
Note I've redacted some info from my sample letter (replacing it with "____"s)to mask the identity of my advisor, (but I don't do that in my email to the student). It's important to note that the blanks include info that shows I knew about that professor's research and that I had worked on similar things.
The goal being to provide them useful advice that they might take and become more successful in the future. Often these students come from disadvantaged backgrounds or from developing countries and I think it is really important to try to help them and not just ignore their emails. Of course, as one becomes more well known, even this strategy might prove to be cumbersome.
Over this past graduate student application season, nearly all of the students I sent this email response to were gushing with gratitude for the advice.
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Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
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What I currently do is save the following text on my computer, and simply paste it in an email response every time I receive this type of email.
I'm sorry to say that this email is too generic for me to consider you as a future PhD student working with me. Unfortunately, it doesn't demonstrate that you know what topics I work on. I'd recommend in the future sending only a few emails. Focus on max 10 or so potential supervisors that really fit your specific research interest. Explain what specifically drew you to them as a supervisor. Explain what you want to work on with them. You should have read one of their papers or at minimum read a description of their research from their webpage. The type of email you wrote will get very few responses because we receive several such emails. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh. I hope you might take this advice and improve next time if you send more emails in the future - because I really do want you to succeed.
Here is an example of what I sent to my prospective PhD advisor 10 years ago. I only emailed 6 professors, because I really wanted to
spend a lot of time tailoring my email to their interests and
convincing them I wanted to work on the things they worked on.
"My name is _______ and I am a senior majoring in _______ at _______ University. I am interested in working in your lab during graduate
studies at _______ because I want to do research in _______.
Your website especially stood out because you state that you encourage independent research and team work. Currently, I am
collaborating with six other students doing _________. We defined our
own research question, and although it was the toughest part of the
project it was the most rewarding. During this project, I first came
across your early work on _______ - and further reading some of your
newer papers ______ & ______, I really like the diversity of the
problems in your lab. It seems like a really exciting lab to be part
of.
Specifically, I am most interested in doing research in _______. I am in the beginning phase of drafting an NSF graduate research fellowship
application on the topic.
I was wondering if you will have any openings for new graduate students in your lab this coming year? Any comments or feedback would be greatly appreciated."
cheers,
-Dr X
Note I've redacted some info from my sample letter (replacing it with "____"s)to mask the identity of my advisor, (but I don't do that in my email to the student). It's important to note that the blanks include info that shows I knew about that professor's research and that I had worked on similar things.
The goal being to provide them useful advice that they might take and become more successful in the future. Often these students come from disadvantaged backgrounds or from developing countries and I think it is really important to try to help them and not just ignore their emails. Of course, as one becomes more well known, even this strategy might prove to be cumbersome.
Over this past graduate student application season, nearly all of the students I sent this email response to were gushing with gratitude for the advice.
What I currently do is save the following text on my computer, and simply paste it in an email response every time I receive this type of email.
I'm sorry to say that this email is too generic for me to consider you as a future PhD student working with me. Unfortunately, it doesn't demonstrate that you know what topics I work on. I'd recommend in the future sending only a few emails. Focus on max 10 or so potential supervisors that really fit your specific research interest. Explain what specifically drew you to them as a supervisor. Explain what you want to work on with them. You should have read one of their papers or at minimum read a description of their research from their webpage. The type of email you wrote will get very few responses because we receive several such emails. I hope this doesn't come off too harsh. I hope you might take this advice and improve next time if you send more emails in the future - because I really do want you to succeed.
Here is an example of what I sent to my prospective PhD advisor 10 years ago. I only emailed 6 professors, because I really wanted to
spend a lot of time tailoring my email to their interests and
convincing them I wanted to work on the things they worked on.
"My name is _______ and I am a senior majoring in _______ at _______ University. I am interested in working in your lab during graduate
studies at _______ because I want to do research in _______.
Your website especially stood out because you state that you encourage independent research and team work. Currently, I am
collaborating with six other students doing _________. We defined our
own research question, and although it was the toughest part of the
project it was the most rewarding. During this project, I first came
across your early work on _______ - and further reading some of your
newer papers ______ & ______, I really like the diversity of the
problems in your lab. It seems like a really exciting lab to be part
of.
Specifically, I am most interested in doing research in _______. I am in the beginning phase of drafting an NSF graduate research fellowship
application on the topic.
I was wondering if you will have any openings for new graduate students in your lab this coming year? Any comments or feedback would be greatly appreciated."
cheers,
-Dr X
Note I've redacted some info from my sample letter (replacing it with "____"s)to mask the identity of my advisor, (but I don't do that in my email to the student). It's important to note that the blanks include info that shows I knew about that professor's research and that I had worked on similar things.
The goal being to provide them useful advice that they might take and become more successful in the future. Often these students come from disadvantaged backgrounds or from developing countries and I think it is really important to try to help them and not just ignore their emails. Of course, as one becomes more well known, even this strategy might prove to be cumbersome.
Over this past graduate student application season, nearly all of the students I sent this email response to were gushing with gratitude for the advice.
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answered yesterday
WetlabStudentWetlabStudent
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Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
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16
Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
16
16
Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
Maybe consider putting something like this on your webpage as well. (As someone who emailed many professors in the fashion you are describing before I knew better, I appreciate your prepared reply. You may want to consider adding several relevant papers or books that you expect prospective students to have read.)
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
4
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
@SolarMike hmmmm... That might be too embarrassing, even for me. Maybe when I'm older.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
7
7
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
@SolarMike ? No, this person is the professor, receiving begging emails, and this is their prepared reply for students. By putting this on his webpage, she can save some time and some students some embarrassment. Many professors have something like this : a link to a page with information for prospective students.
– Lorenzo
yesterday
4
4
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
@Lorenzo Then you get the students who say " I used your suggested email request format and you still did not give me a post".... Also, are you sure the OP is female?
– Solar Mike
yesterday
3
3
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
I like the first part but the second one is again a bit generic ;-)
– lordy
yesterday
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If I am not especially interested in the student's profile, I simply delete the email. If no effort whatsoever was spent by the sender to address an email to me personally, I don't feel like I have a duty to respond to it.
If I am interested by the student's profile and they have just been clueless about how to get in touch with potential supervisors, you can answer generic advice as suggested in @WetlabStudent's answer, or you can write a one-line generic answer like "Thanks for reaching out. What would specifically interest you in working with me?" and give the student a chance to be more specific.
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
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If I am not especially interested in the student's profile, I simply delete the email. If no effort whatsoever was spent by the sender to address an email to me personally, I don't feel like I have a duty to respond to it.
If I am interested by the student's profile and they have just been clueless about how to get in touch with potential supervisors, you can answer generic advice as suggested in @WetlabStudent's answer, or you can write a one-line generic answer like "Thanks for reaching out. What would specifically interest you in working with me?" and give the student a chance to be more specific.
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
add a comment |
If I am not especially interested in the student's profile, I simply delete the email. If no effort whatsoever was spent by the sender to address an email to me personally, I don't feel like I have a duty to respond to it.
If I am interested by the student's profile and they have just been clueless about how to get in touch with potential supervisors, you can answer generic advice as suggested in @WetlabStudent's answer, or you can write a one-line generic answer like "Thanks for reaching out. What would specifically interest you in working with me?" and give the student a chance to be more specific.
If I am not especially interested in the student's profile, I simply delete the email. If no effort whatsoever was spent by the sender to address an email to me personally, I don't feel like I have a duty to respond to it.
If I am interested by the student's profile and they have just been clueless about how to get in touch with potential supervisors, you can answer generic advice as suggested in @WetlabStudent's answer, or you can write a one-line generic answer like "Thanks for reaching out. What would specifically interest you in working with me?" and give the student a chance to be more specific.
answered yesterday
a3nma3nm
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This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
add a comment |
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This seems efficient. You never requested the email, so it is up to the writer to earn your attention. Reply to those that made an effort but are not suitable.
– David
19 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
This is definitely my approach. I feel no more need to respond to a postdoc spammer who doesn't even bother to figure out what field I'm in than to a predatory journal spammer.
– jakebeal
2 hours ago
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In our department, we forward those emails to the department administrator, who replies with a polite but generic e-mail encouraging prospective students to apply via our normal procedure. However, that’s a bit above and beyond, and I realize many departments don’t offer such a service to their faculty.
In lieu of that, if you are a Gmail user, I recommend the “canned responses” feature, which is even easier than the copy and paste approach IMO.
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You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
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In our department, we forward those emails to the department administrator, who replies with a polite but generic e-mail encouraging prospective students to apply via our normal procedure. However, that’s a bit above and beyond, and I realize many departments don’t offer such a service to their faculty.
In lieu of that, if you are a Gmail user, I recommend the “canned responses” feature, which is even easier than the copy and paste approach IMO.
New contributor
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You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
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In our department, we forward those emails to the department administrator, who replies with a polite but generic e-mail encouraging prospective students to apply via our normal procedure. However, that’s a bit above and beyond, and I realize many departments don’t offer such a service to their faculty.
In lieu of that, if you are a Gmail user, I recommend the “canned responses” feature, which is even easier than the copy and paste approach IMO.
New contributor
In our department, we forward those emails to the department administrator, who replies with a polite but generic e-mail encouraging prospective students to apply via our normal procedure. However, that’s a bit above and beyond, and I realize many departments don’t offer such a service to their faculty.
In lieu of that, if you are a Gmail user, I recommend the “canned responses” feature, which is even easier than the copy and paste approach IMO.
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You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
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You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
3
3
You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
You can set the canned response as an alternative 'signature' in most email clients, as well.
– Adonalsium
yesterday
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Life is about setting goals and priorities.
If your goal is to be a saint, then spend time helping these random unknown individuals to fulfil their ambitions. If not, just hit "delete".
Nobody can tell you whether to aspire to sainthood or to winning a Nobel Prize for your academic work (or something in between those extremes), but history suggests that trying achieve both simultaneously doesn't work.
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It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
2
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
add a comment |
Life is about setting goals and priorities.
If your goal is to be a saint, then spend time helping these random unknown individuals to fulfil their ambitions. If not, just hit "delete".
Nobody can tell you whether to aspire to sainthood or to winning a Nobel Prize for your academic work (or something in between those extremes), but history suggests that trying achieve both simultaneously doesn't work.
8
It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
2
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
add a comment |
Life is about setting goals and priorities.
If your goal is to be a saint, then spend time helping these random unknown individuals to fulfil their ambitions. If not, just hit "delete".
Nobody can tell you whether to aspire to sainthood or to winning a Nobel Prize for your academic work (or something in between those extremes), but history suggests that trying achieve both simultaneously doesn't work.
Life is about setting goals and priorities.
If your goal is to be a saint, then spend time helping these random unknown individuals to fulfil their ambitions. If not, just hit "delete".
Nobody can tell you whether to aspire to sainthood or to winning a Nobel Prize for your academic work (or something in between those extremes), but history suggests that trying achieve both simultaneously doesn't work.
answered yesterday
alephzeroalephzero
2,7631015
2,7631015
8
It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
2
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
add a comment |
8
It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
2
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
8
8
It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
It doesn't exactly require being a saint to help random unknown poor students every now and then, and it's not that time consuming to copy-paste a generic(!) reply for emails like that.
– JiK
yesterday
2
2
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
@JiK agreed. We can be decent people and still achieve success - most of the time, the right thing to do isn't that costly, and usually has flow-on benefits in some way or another.
– goblin
yesterday
3
3
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
well, I don't tell people who throw advertisements in my postbox how to make sure I read them either and I still consider myself a decent being. It all depends a bit on how it comes off and what information your page already has. After I got the first such mail I put a respective line on my personal page that redirected to the already existing well maintained university site for applications. If someone still manages to ignore both, I feel absolutely no indecency in just ignoring that request. I might still have a particularly good day and answer someone, but I feel it's not undecent not to.
– Frank Hopkins
yesterday
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It seems like the consensus here about replying to generic emails with canned emails. I have nothing to add to the existing answers, except a technical solution to make the process of copy-pasting the emails easier. Two software I can recommend for Windows users are PhraseExpress and AutoHotkey. The former has a GUI and can sync with your phone, the latter gives you more flexibility.
For AutoHotKey, use:
:*:cemail::
SendRaw,
(
text text text
)
return
So every time you type cemail
(shorted for "canned email"), text text text
will be auto-typed. If you need to customize the text, use InputBox
.
add a comment |
It seems like the consensus here about replying to generic emails with canned emails. I have nothing to add to the existing answers, except a technical solution to make the process of copy-pasting the emails easier. Two software I can recommend for Windows users are PhraseExpress and AutoHotkey. The former has a GUI and can sync with your phone, the latter gives you more flexibility.
For AutoHotKey, use:
:*:cemail::
SendRaw,
(
text text text
)
return
So every time you type cemail
(shorted for "canned email"), text text text
will be auto-typed. If you need to customize the text, use InputBox
.
add a comment |
It seems like the consensus here about replying to generic emails with canned emails. I have nothing to add to the existing answers, except a technical solution to make the process of copy-pasting the emails easier. Two software I can recommend for Windows users are PhraseExpress and AutoHotkey. The former has a GUI and can sync with your phone, the latter gives you more flexibility.
For AutoHotKey, use:
:*:cemail::
SendRaw,
(
text text text
)
return
So every time you type cemail
(shorted for "canned email"), text text text
will be auto-typed. If you need to customize the text, use InputBox
.
It seems like the consensus here about replying to generic emails with canned emails. I have nothing to add to the existing answers, except a technical solution to make the process of copy-pasting the emails easier. Two software I can recommend for Windows users are PhraseExpress and AutoHotkey. The former has a GUI and can sync with your phone, the latter gives you more flexibility.
For AutoHotKey, use:
:*:cemail::
SendRaw,
(
text text text
)
return
So every time you type cemail
(shorted for "canned email"), text text text
will be auto-typed. If you need to customize the text, use InputBox
.
answered 12 hours ago
OokerOoker
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Interesting question. I went through the application process a few years ago, and quite a few professors never responded, and to be honest I think that's perfectly okay, and have told many of my friends to expect no reply when applying. If you really want to, I'd keep it brief and say basically that you're looking for students with a clearer idea of their research topics and ones who know better what you are studying. and then tell them best of luck.
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Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
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Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
3
In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
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Interesting question. I went through the application process a few years ago, and quite a few professors never responded, and to be honest I think that's perfectly okay, and have told many of my friends to expect no reply when applying. If you really want to, I'd keep it brief and say basically that you're looking for students with a clearer idea of their research topics and ones who know better what you are studying. and then tell them best of luck.
New contributor
Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
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Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
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In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
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Interesting question. I went through the application process a few years ago, and quite a few professors never responded, and to be honest I think that's perfectly okay, and have told many of my friends to expect no reply when applying. If you really want to, I'd keep it brief and say basically that you're looking for students with a clearer idea of their research topics and ones who know better what you are studying. and then tell them best of luck.
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Interesting question. I went through the application process a few years ago, and quite a few professors never responded, and to be honest I think that's perfectly okay, and have told many of my friends to expect no reply when applying. If you really want to, I'd keep it brief and say basically that you're looking for students with a clearer idea of their research topics and ones who know better what you are studying. and then tell them best of luck.
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Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
1
Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
3
In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
add a comment |
Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
1
Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
3
In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
Did the approach actually land you a position in a program?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
1
1
Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
Hmm? I didn't employ that approach and am at my 1st choice. I wrote long detailed emails specifying my background, what I wanted to study and referencing the professors research, and attached my CV. Despite that I still didn't hear back from a couple professors. So clearly, if you don't customize your letter at all, expecting a response is silly. I helped many of my friends who applied in the last few years, either by giving them advice or editing their applications, and gave them all the warning that a busy professor may just choose not to respond, and it's not rare for that to happen.
– EMP
yesterday
3
3
In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
In the US, at least, you're not "applying" when you contact a prof. There is no route in that way. I get so many of these letters that I'm interested in trying to figure out if students look at this as an application process. The emails that start "I've applied to your program...." are much better received by me.
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
I didn't see it as part of the application, I saw it as a prerequisite for it. I sent an email stating my background and research interests (which were tightly defined) and asked the professors if they were still doing research in that topic and if it was worth it to apply. In my case, I applied to more EU and Canadian schools than US. But even in the U.S. knowing if a professor is interested saves time. Where I am now in the U.S. I spoke with my advisor, I interviewed with him, and then he told me to apply and told the office to accept me.
– EMP
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
Yes, I was taught reaching out is practically a prerequisite for applications. I was only accepted/got interviews from professors I reached out to and talked to over the summer (3).
– Azor Ahai
yesterday
add a comment |
How to politely respond to generic emails
Don't. If the email is unsolicited, you're not obliged to answer.
I know that this goes against our inner moral compass, but think of it this way: sending email is quick and easy. Too quick and too easy. Those people most likely have put less effort into sending such email than the effort you have put into reading it! It's you who's at disadvantage here. Responding is nothing short of letting yourself to be robbed of even more time against your will. That's why your colleagues just delete them. Don't feel bad for ignoring bad mails.
In fact, feel bad for replying! If you reply to bad mails, you're only showing that their strategy is working and encourage them to keep sending more. You're helping by ignoring.
You want to be helpful. But they're not asking for your help, they're asking for a specific favor. What you're currently doing is unsolicited advice, as unsolicited as their spam. And like most unsolicited things it only makes everything worse. You'll be seen as condescending and patronizing. You're basically saying "be more like me and less yourself". Nobody wants to hear that. You're not helping anyone, you just make yourself feel better about being yourself.
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How to politely respond to generic emails
Don't. If the email is unsolicited, you're not obliged to answer.
I know that this goes against our inner moral compass, but think of it this way: sending email is quick and easy. Too quick and too easy. Those people most likely have put less effort into sending such email than the effort you have put into reading it! It's you who's at disadvantage here. Responding is nothing short of letting yourself to be robbed of even more time against your will. That's why your colleagues just delete them. Don't feel bad for ignoring bad mails.
In fact, feel bad for replying! If you reply to bad mails, you're only showing that their strategy is working and encourage them to keep sending more. You're helping by ignoring.
You want to be helpful. But they're not asking for your help, they're asking for a specific favor. What you're currently doing is unsolicited advice, as unsolicited as their spam. And like most unsolicited things it only makes everything worse. You'll be seen as condescending and patronizing. You're basically saying "be more like me and less yourself". Nobody wants to hear that. You're not helping anyone, you just make yourself feel better about being yourself.
add a comment |
How to politely respond to generic emails
Don't. If the email is unsolicited, you're not obliged to answer.
I know that this goes against our inner moral compass, but think of it this way: sending email is quick and easy. Too quick and too easy. Those people most likely have put less effort into sending such email than the effort you have put into reading it! It's you who's at disadvantage here. Responding is nothing short of letting yourself to be robbed of even more time against your will. That's why your colleagues just delete them. Don't feel bad for ignoring bad mails.
In fact, feel bad for replying! If you reply to bad mails, you're only showing that their strategy is working and encourage them to keep sending more. You're helping by ignoring.
You want to be helpful. But they're not asking for your help, they're asking for a specific favor. What you're currently doing is unsolicited advice, as unsolicited as their spam. And like most unsolicited things it only makes everything worse. You'll be seen as condescending and patronizing. You're basically saying "be more like me and less yourself". Nobody wants to hear that. You're not helping anyone, you just make yourself feel better about being yourself.
How to politely respond to generic emails
Don't. If the email is unsolicited, you're not obliged to answer.
I know that this goes against our inner moral compass, but think of it this way: sending email is quick and easy. Too quick and too easy. Those people most likely have put less effort into sending such email than the effort you have put into reading it! It's you who's at disadvantage here. Responding is nothing short of letting yourself to be robbed of even more time against your will. That's why your colleagues just delete them. Don't feel bad for ignoring bad mails.
In fact, feel bad for replying! If you reply to bad mails, you're only showing that their strategy is working and encourage them to keep sending more. You're helping by ignoring.
You want to be helpful. But they're not asking for your help, they're asking for a specific favor. What you're currently doing is unsolicited advice, as unsolicited as their spam. And like most unsolicited things it only makes everything worse. You'll be seen as condescending and patronizing. You're basically saying "be more like me and less yourself". Nobody wants to hear that. You're not helping anyone, you just make yourself feel better about being yourself.
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I just put a link to this SE question on my lab's website :) Sure, It's a solution that requires people to read the 'Generic emails will not be answered' line and even follow the link. I share your sentiment but I think that if people don't do that, they won't be too bummed if you don't reply, you're probably one of many.
– elisa
yesterday
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Why would you feel compelled to put more time into a response than the sender put into the request?
– Scott Seidman
yesterday
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Either it's some service they paid to spam the world with their resume, or it's a real person who will come back and try to press you for more info or argue with your denial.
– A Simple Algorithm
yesterday
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I'm not clear on one point: do you actually have job openings? And if so, are you advertising them? If not, a simple "Sorry, but I don't have any openings at this time" reply should be all that's necessary.
– jamesqf
yesterday
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@jamesqf In many countries (e.g. USA, Canada) there are no such thing as "job openings" for PhD students. Students are most often funded by the department and do not apply for specific funded projects (as they do in Europe). Some of these students have their own funding (sometimes only partial) from their country of origin to work on whatever topic they want at top universities around the world.
– WetlabStudent
22 hours ago