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At my work, we have a schedule option where you get every other Friday off. It is the standard schedule all new hires are given. Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow". But she never explicitly stated "you should probably come in tomorrow". Nor did I have time to ask her to clarify the statement because she was rushing on her way out.



For context, I am working on a task that is very high priority, and she said at the beginning of the week that it needs to get done. I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly). The specific task requires that I be in the building, so I cannot work from home. That said, I was never given an explicit heads up that I will need to work on a Friday that I am supposed to have off; the suddenness of the statement is what concerns me and prompted me asking this question. Therefore, the ethical quandary in question is the duty to finish my task versus the right to a day off that is part of my conditions of employment.



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    "Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

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    I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

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    Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

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    Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

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At my work, we have a schedule option where you get every other Friday off. It is the standard schedule all new hires are given. Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow". But she never explicitly stated "you should probably come in tomorrow". Nor did I have time to ask her to clarify the statement because she was rushing on her way out.



For context, I am working on a task that is very high priority, and she said at the beginning of the week that it needs to get done. I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly). The specific task requires that I be in the building, so I cannot work from home. That said, I was never given an explicit heads up that I will need to work on a Friday that I am supposed to have off; the suddenness of the statement is what concerns me and prompted me asking this question. Therefore, the ethical quandary in question is the duty to finish my task versus the right to a day off that is part of my conditions of employment.



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    "Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

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    I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

    – Joe Strazzere
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    Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

    – Arsak
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    Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

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At my work, we have a schedule option where you get every other Friday off. It is the standard schedule all new hires are given. Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow". But she never explicitly stated "you should probably come in tomorrow". Nor did I have time to ask her to clarify the statement because she was rushing on her way out.



For context, I am working on a task that is very high priority, and she said at the beginning of the week that it needs to get done. I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly). The specific task requires that I be in the building, so I cannot work from home. That said, I was never given an explicit heads up that I will need to work on a Friday that I am supposed to have off; the suddenness of the statement is what concerns me and prompted me asking this question. Therefore, the ethical quandary in question is the duty to finish my task versus the right to a day off that is part of my conditions of employment.



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At my work, we have a schedule option where you get every other Friday off. It is the standard schedule all new hires are given. Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow". But she never explicitly stated "you should probably come in tomorrow". Nor did I have time to ask her to clarify the statement because she was rushing on her way out.



For context, I am working on a task that is very high priority, and she said at the beginning of the week that it needs to get done. I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly). The specific task requires that I be in the building, so I cannot work from home. That said, I was never given an explicit heads up that I will need to work on a Friday that I am supposed to have off; the suddenness of the statement is what concerns me and prompted me asking this question. Therefore, the ethical quandary in question is the duty to finish my task versus the right to a day off that is part of my conditions of employment.



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    "Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

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    I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

    – Joe Strazzere
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    Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

    – Arsak
    yesterday






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    Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

    – MonkeyZeus
    yesterday








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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

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  • 91





    "Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

    – Joe Strazzere
    2 days ago








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    I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

    – Joe Strazzere
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    Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

    – Arsak
    yesterday






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    Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

    – MonkeyZeus
    yesterday








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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

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"Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

– Joe Strazzere
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"Today, my manager implied that I need to go into work this Friday with the phrase "If you need me I'll probably be working from home tomorrow"." - that implies you should go into work Friday? I don't understand how. Perhaps you misunderstood? Perhaps she forgot you have this Friday off?

– Joe Strazzere
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I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

– Joe Strazzere
2 days ago







I think you are reading far too much into an off-hand comment. It's unfortunate you didn't get clarification. "Given the situation above, am I ethically obligated to come into work on my off day?" - you weren't told to work. You aren't ethically obligated.

– Joe Strazzere
2 days ago






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Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

– Arsak
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Maybe your manager forgot, whether it's your working or non-working Friday and just wanted to let you know she was available if needed?

– Arsak
yesterday




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Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

– MonkeyZeus
yesterday







Don't kill your career on this molehill. Be a professional by either humbly seeking clarification or just get this high priority project completed. You can reconcile an extra day off with your boss after this unexpected work day is over.

– MonkeyZeus
yesterday






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I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

– Dukeling
yesterday







I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's essentially asking us to figure out whether or not your manager believes you will or, more importantly, should be working on Friday. This is something only your manager would know. If you were explicitly asked, it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't be able to tell you how important the task is or what formal or informal overtime policies your company has (although if you're just making up for the 1.5 hours "undertime" then it's presumably not overtime).

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You're not ethically obligated, especially since your boss didn't tell you to go in (extemporaneous remarks about her availability don't count). That said, it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company.



As you progress in your career, you probably won't always have someone telling you explicitly when to work and when not to work but you will always have important deadlines and obligations that have to be met. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth cancelling your plans for your day off but it might be good to start thinking in terms what needs to get done (and what can wait) rather than just putting in your hours.






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    It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

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    Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

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    @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

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  • "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

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  • Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

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Why guess? Send her an email or an IM asking her to clarify whether you’re needed.






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    This is the obviously correct answer.

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You are conflating two things here and not seeing a slightly bigger picture. The first is that you have important, urgent work to do and have taken some personal time out of the office to go to the doctor recently. From my point of view that is a good reason to go into work on a day off or work late on a few days to make sure everything is completed and signed off in a timely fashion. That way you make up the time and complete what is required.



The second thing is that you are overthinking a comment that was only meant to give you information and not imply anything. When your manager states that she is working from home if you need her for anything she isn't implying that you should be at work that day or that you could or would need her. All she is doing is saying where she will be. She probably didn't even consider whether you were working that day or not when she said it because she just wanted you to know where she is. In comments you say:



"The implication is, she will be available if I need her. Why would I need her if I'm not there? I have to be there to need her."



I don't think that that implication follows at all. I worked with someone who had a serious accident whilst on a day off (I was with him at the time as it was actually after work the evening before his day off) and our manager was working from home the next day. This meant that in spite of his not working he needed our manager to report that he wouldn't be in the following week thanks to the injury. There are countless other reasons why you might need your manager's location information even if you aren't working.



Following on from this she may not even have realized that you weren't going to be in the office at all. I had a boss who would say "see you tomorrow" when he left most Fridays. He didn't expect me to work on Saturday he just didn't always remember what day it was. My typical response was "you can come in if you like but I don't work Saturdays" and it was laughed off.



My third point is really why I'm writing this answer. You should never feel obligated to work on a day off. Ever. It actually hurts your productivity and the company in general if you don't get enough rest and sufficient down time. You need to make up any hours that you missed, and complete urgent tasks, obviously but that should not be to the detriment of your productivity. You should never feel ethically obligated to work during your time off as it is hurting rather than helping the company in most cases. You should feel obligated to take your rest and be refreshed for your work on your next shift. Some companies don't like this and expect you to work tonnes of overtime but only the most toxic ones don't understand this when it is explained to them.



Use your time off to become more productive when you are working, make sure that you complete urgent tasks on time, make up any hours that you have missed, and don't assume that because a manager gives you information about something it is because they expect you have to use it. Your manager is as human as mine who never knew what day it was!






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    This is a really great answer.

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    I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

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    This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

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It seems to me that your manager was just advising her reports that she was going to be out of the office but available from home. It had no expectation of anything from you. That you have this Friday off probably didn't even occur to them.






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I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly).




If "need" means "my company forces me to" (as opposed to "I have to catch up at some point"), it means it relies on apothecary methods of measuring work time. In that case a Friday off is off, even if the world is crumbling. Because precise time management.



I am fully aware that this is not the right approach for a successful career in that company but this is not the company I would like to have a career in.






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    Depends on your dedication. If you want to get the job done, impress the boss, and prove your value to the company, you'll do it.






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    • I don't see why this is getting down votes...

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      @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

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      I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

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      @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

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      It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

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    There is no ethics in business, strictly speaking, so the answer is no.



    However, from the perspective of career and expectations, if you were asked to come in on a free day and something very important depended on it, then it would be the right thing to do to come in. And the right thing for the company would be to reward this dedication, as well as give you another day of your choice off.



    In your situation, you were not explicitly asked to come in. The right thing to do would be to get clarification. By whatever is the best way to reach your boss, make it clear that if you are needed for the important deadline, you are ready to come in on your free day. Make your own guess at whether or not this will make a difference to the deadline, and then say either:



    "By my own estimate, I believe that it would be for the best of the project if I did came. I'd like your ok on that, and I will gladly move my free day somewhen else."



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    "By my own estimate, it won't make a difference to the deadline which we will keep/miss whether or not I come in. But if you think different and request that I come, I will do so and move my free day to another date."






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      You're not ethically obligated, especially since your boss didn't tell you to go in (extemporaneous remarks about her availability don't count). That said, it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company.



      As you progress in your career, you probably won't always have someone telling you explicitly when to work and when not to work but you will always have important deadlines and obligations that have to be met. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth cancelling your plans for your day off but it might be good to start thinking in terms what needs to get done (and what can wait) rather than just putting in your hours.






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        It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

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        Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

        – Keith
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        @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

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      • "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

        – Joe Strazzere
        yesterday











      • Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

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      You're not ethically obligated, especially since your boss didn't tell you to go in (extemporaneous remarks about her availability don't count). That said, it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company.



      As you progress in your career, you probably won't always have someone telling you explicitly when to work and when not to work but you will always have important deadlines and obligations that have to be met. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth cancelling your plans for your day off but it might be good to start thinking in terms what needs to get done (and what can wait) rather than just putting in your hours.






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        It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

        – delinear
        yesterday






      • 1





        Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

        – Keith
        yesterday






      • 3





        @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

        – Fattie
        yesterday











      • "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

        – Joe Strazzere
        yesterday











      • Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

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      You're not ethically obligated, especially since your boss didn't tell you to go in (extemporaneous remarks about her availability don't count). That said, it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company.



      As you progress in your career, you probably won't always have someone telling you explicitly when to work and when not to work but you will always have important deadlines and obligations that have to be met. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth cancelling your plans for your day off but it might be good to start thinking in terms what needs to get done (and what can wait) rather than just putting in your hours.






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      You're not ethically obligated, especially since your boss didn't tell you to go in (extemporaneous remarks about her availability don't count). That said, it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company.



      As you progress in your career, you probably won't always have someone telling you explicitly when to work and when not to work but you will always have important deadlines and obligations that have to be met. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth cancelling your plans for your day off but it might be good to start thinking in terms what needs to get done (and what can wait) rather than just putting in your hours.







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        It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

        – delinear
        yesterday






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        Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

        – Keith
        yesterday






      • 3





        @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

        – Fattie
        yesterday











      • "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

        – Joe Strazzere
        yesterday











      • Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

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        It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

        – delinear
        yesterday






      • 1





        Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

        – Keith
        yesterday






      • 3





        @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

        – Fattie
        yesterday











      • "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

        – Joe Strazzere
        yesterday











      • Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

        – Davor
        6 hours ago








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      It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

      – delinear
      yesterday





      It seems like a good opportunity to go into work in order to work off the 1.5 owed hours. That way OP is showing willing by going in on their day off to do extra work to try to meet the deadline, they're also clearing their indebted hours at the same time. Obviously if they have a 4 hours round-trip commute or something they might not want to do that, but if it's not going to be especially difficult to get into the office, that seems like a reasonable compromise.

      – delinear
      yesterday




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      Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

      – Keith
      yesterday





      Amazing. I basically said the same thing. It all comes down to whether or not you care to impress the boss or value your day off.

      – Keith
      yesterday




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      @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

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      yesterday





      @Keith - voting is highly random on this site, so don't worry about it.

      – Fattie
      yesterday













      "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

      – Joe Strazzere
      yesterday





      "it could be a wise move in terms of your future at the company." - it would be a wise move to go in? Without even asking if you are actually being requested to go in on a day off? Not something I would do.

      – Joe Strazzere
      yesterday













      Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

      – Davor
      6 hours ago





      Do not just randomly go and work a day you're not supposed to. At least in Europe, this can get your employer into legal problems (strict overtime laws, working unreported hours etc.), and you can even get fired. I remember a case like that from news. While US may be different, I don't think any company likes unplanned overtime.

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      You are conflating two things here and not seeing a slightly bigger picture. The first is that you have important, urgent work to do and have taken some personal time out of the office to go to the doctor recently. From my point of view that is a good reason to go into work on a day off or work late on a few days to make sure everything is completed and signed off in a timely fashion. That way you make up the time and complete what is required.



      The second thing is that you are overthinking a comment that was only meant to give you information and not imply anything. When your manager states that she is working from home if you need her for anything she isn't implying that you should be at work that day or that you could or would need her. All she is doing is saying where she will be. She probably didn't even consider whether you were working that day or not when she said it because she just wanted you to know where she is. In comments you say:



      "The implication is, she will be available if I need her. Why would I need her if I'm not there? I have to be there to need her."



      I don't think that that implication follows at all. I worked with someone who had a serious accident whilst on a day off (I was with him at the time as it was actually after work the evening before his day off) and our manager was working from home the next day. This meant that in spite of his not working he needed our manager to report that he wouldn't be in the following week thanks to the injury. There are countless other reasons why you might need your manager's location information even if you aren't working.



      Following on from this she may not even have realized that you weren't going to be in the office at all. I had a boss who would say "see you tomorrow" when he left most Fridays. He didn't expect me to work on Saturday he just didn't always remember what day it was. My typical response was "you can come in if you like but I don't work Saturdays" and it was laughed off.



      My third point is really why I'm writing this answer. You should never feel obligated to work on a day off. Ever. It actually hurts your productivity and the company in general if you don't get enough rest and sufficient down time. You need to make up any hours that you missed, and complete urgent tasks, obviously but that should not be to the detriment of your productivity. You should never feel ethically obligated to work during your time off as it is hurting rather than helping the company in most cases. You should feel obligated to take your rest and be refreshed for your work on your next shift. Some companies don't like this and expect you to work tonnes of overtime but only the most toxic ones don't understand this when it is explained to them.



      Use your time off to become more productive when you are working, make sure that you complete urgent tasks on time, make up any hours that you have missed, and don't assume that because a manager gives you information about something it is because they expect you have to use it. Your manager is as human as mine who never knew what day it was!






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        I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

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        15 hours ago






      • 2





        This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

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        6 hours ago
















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      You are conflating two things here and not seeing a slightly bigger picture. The first is that you have important, urgent work to do and have taken some personal time out of the office to go to the doctor recently. From my point of view that is a good reason to go into work on a day off or work late on a few days to make sure everything is completed and signed off in a timely fashion. That way you make up the time and complete what is required.



      The second thing is that you are overthinking a comment that was only meant to give you information and not imply anything. When your manager states that she is working from home if you need her for anything she isn't implying that you should be at work that day or that you could or would need her. All she is doing is saying where she will be. She probably didn't even consider whether you were working that day or not when she said it because she just wanted you to know where she is. In comments you say:



      "The implication is, she will be available if I need her. Why would I need her if I'm not there? I have to be there to need her."



      I don't think that that implication follows at all. I worked with someone who had a serious accident whilst on a day off (I was with him at the time as it was actually after work the evening before his day off) and our manager was working from home the next day. This meant that in spite of his not working he needed our manager to report that he wouldn't be in the following week thanks to the injury. There are countless other reasons why you might need your manager's location information even if you aren't working.



      Following on from this she may not even have realized that you weren't going to be in the office at all. I had a boss who would say "see you tomorrow" when he left most Fridays. He didn't expect me to work on Saturday he just didn't always remember what day it was. My typical response was "you can come in if you like but I don't work Saturdays" and it was laughed off.



      My third point is really why I'm writing this answer. You should never feel obligated to work on a day off. Ever. It actually hurts your productivity and the company in general if you don't get enough rest and sufficient down time. You need to make up any hours that you missed, and complete urgent tasks, obviously but that should not be to the detriment of your productivity. You should never feel ethically obligated to work during your time off as it is hurting rather than helping the company in most cases. You should feel obligated to take your rest and be refreshed for your work on your next shift. Some companies don't like this and expect you to work tonnes of overtime but only the most toxic ones don't understand this when it is explained to them.



      Use your time off to become more productive when you are working, make sure that you complete urgent tasks on time, make up any hours that you have missed, and don't assume that because a manager gives you information about something it is because they expect you have to use it. Your manager is as human as mine who never knew what day it was!






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        I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

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        15 hours ago






      • 2





        This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

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      You are conflating two things here and not seeing a slightly bigger picture. The first is that you have important, urgent work to do and have taken some personal time out of the office to go to the doctor recently. From my point of view that is a good reason to go into work on a day off or work late on a few days to make sure everything is completed and signed off in a timely fashion. That way you make up the time and complete what is required.



      The second thing is that you are overthinking a comment that was only meant to give you information and not imply anything. When your manager states that she is working from home if you need her for anything she isn't implying that you should be at work that day or that you could or would need her. All she is doing is saying where she will be. She probably didn't even consider whether you were working that day or not when she said it because she just wanted you to know where she is. In comments you say:



      "The implication is, she will be available if I need her. Why would I need her if I'm not there? I have to be there to need her."



      I don't think that that implication follows at all. I worked with someone who had a serious accident whilst on a day off (I was with him at the time as it was actually after work the evening before his day off) and our manager was working from home the next day. This meant that in spite of his not working he needed our manager to report that he wouldn't be in the following week thanks to the injury. There are countless other reasons why you might need your manager's location information even if you aren't working.



      Following on from this she may not even have realized that you weren't going to be in the office at all. I had a boss who would say "see you tomorrow" when he left most Fridays. He didn't expect me to work on Saturday he just didn't always remember what day it was. My typical response was "you can come in if you like but I don't work Saturdays" and it was laughed off.



      My third point is really why I'm writing this answer. You should never feel obligated to work on a day off. Ever. It actually hurts your productivity and the company in general if you don't get enough rest and sufficient down time. You need to make up any hours that you missed, and complete urgent tasks, obviously but that should not be to the detriment of your productivity. You should never feel ethically obligated to work during your time off as it is hurting rather than helping the company in most cases. You should feel obligated to take your rest and be refreshed for your work on your next shift. Some companies don't like this and expect you to work tonnes of overtime but only the most toxic ones don't understand this when it is explained to them.



      Use your time off to become more productive when you are working, make sure that you complete urgent tasks on time, make up any hours that you have missed, and don't assume that because a manager gives you information about something it is because they expect you have to use it. Your manager is as human as mine who never knew what day it was!






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      You are conflating two things here and not seeing a slightly bigger picture. The first is that you have important, urgent work to do and have taken some personal time out of the office to go to the doctor recently. From my point of view that is a good reason to go into work on a day off or work late on a few days to make sure everything is completed and signed off in a timely fashion. That way you make up the time and complete what is required.



      The second thing is that you are overthinking a comment that was only meant to give you information and not imply anything. When your manager states that she is working from home if you need her for anything she isn't implying that you should be at work that day or that you could or would need her. All she is doing is saying where she will be. She probably didn't even consider whether you were working that day or not when she said it because she just wanted you to know where she is. In comments you say:



      "The implication is, she will be available if I need her. Why would I need her if I'm not there? I have to be there to need her."



      I don't think that that implication follows at all. I worked with someone who had a serious accident whilst on a day off (I was with him at the time as it was actually after work the evening before his day off) and our manager was working from home the next day. This meant that in spite of his not working he needed our manager to report that he wouldn't be in the following week thanks to the injury. There are countless other reasons why you might need your manager's location information even if you aren't working.



      Following on from this she may not even have realized that you weren't going to be in the office at all. I had a boss who would say "see you tomorrow" when he left most Fridays. He didn't expect me to work on Saturday he just didn't always remember what day it was. My typical response was "you can come in if you like but I don't work Saturdays" and it was laughed off.



      My third point is really why I'm writing this answer. You should never feel obligated to work on a day off. Ever. It actually hurts your productivity and the company in general if you don't get enough rest and sufficient down time. You need to make up any hours that you missed, and complete urgent tasks, obviously but that should not be to the detriment of your productivity. You should never feel ethically obligated to work during your time off as it is hurting rather than helping the company in most cases. You should feel obligated to take your rest and be refreshed for your work on your next shift. Some companies don't like this and expect you to work tonnes of overtime but only the most toxic ones don't understand this when it is explained to them.



      Use your time off to become more productive when you are working, make sure that you complete urgent tasks on time, make up any hours that you have missed, and don't assume that because a manager gives you information about something it is because they expect you have to use it. Your manager is as human as mine who never knew what day it was!







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        I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

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        15 hours ago






      • 2





        This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

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        6 hours ago














      • 3





        This is a really great answer.

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        yesterday






      • 1





        I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

        – alephzero
        15 hours ago






      • 2





        This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

        – Mehrdad
        6 hours ago








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      I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

      – alephzero
      15 hours ago





      I agree you shouldn't be obligated to rearrange your life around work deadlines, but on the other hand you should feel obligated to give a warning of anything that will impact those deadlines, be it medical appointments, regular "9 day fortnights", pre-booked holidays, or whatever. You manager most likely doesn't know (or care) which alternate Fridays you are not at work, but he/she will care (and will most likely take some action to fix the problem!) if he/she knows in advance your part of this project is likely to be late. So don't try to hide that fact and hope it won't happen!

      – alephzero
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      This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

      – Mehrdad
      6 hours ago





      This is definitely a great answer (+1), I just slightly disagree with the notion that the manager's statement was purely informative. It seems more likely that she either did not realize that OP would have this day off, or for other reasons hoped OP would come in that day. It feels rather different from the see-you-tomorrow-on-Saturday thing -- that's something said on a habitual routine whereas this one isn't.

      – Mehrdad
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      It seems to me that your manager was just advising her reports that she was going to be out of the office but available from home. It had no expectation of anything from you. That you have this Friday off probably didn't even occur to them.






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      • This is the right answer.

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      It seems to me that your manager was just advising her reports that she was going to be out of the office but available from home. It had no expectation of anything from you. That you have this Friday off probably didn't even occur to them.






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      • This is the right answer.

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      It seems to me that your manager was just advising her reports that she was going to be out of the office but available from home. It had no expectation of anything from you. That you have this Friday off probably didn't even occur to them.






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      It seems to me that your manager was just advising her reports that she was going to be out of the office but available from home. It had no expectation of anything from you. That you have this Friday off probably didn't even occur to them.







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      answered yesterday









      IDrinkandIKnowThingsIDrinkandIKnowThings

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      • This is the right answer.

        – Mohair
        yesterday



















      • This is the right answer.

        – Mohair
        yesterday

















      This is the right answer.

      – Mohair
      yesterday





      This is the right answer.

      – Mohair
      yesterday











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      I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly).




      If "need" means "my company forces me to" (as opposed to "I have to catch up at some point"), it means it relies on apothecary methods of measuring work time. In that case a Friday off is off, even if the world is crumbling. Because precise time management.



      I am fully aware that this is not the right approach for a successful career in that company but this is not the company I would like to have a career in.






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        I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly).




        If "need" means "my company forces me to" (as opposed to "I have to catch up at some point"), it means it relies on apothecary methods of measuring work time. In that case a Friday off is off, even if the world is crumbling. Because precise time management.



        I am fully aware that this is not the right approach for a successful career in that company but this is not the company I would like to have a career in.






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          -1








          I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly).




          If "need" means "my company forces me to" (as opposed to "I have to catch up at some point"), it means it relies on apothecary methods of measuring work time. In that case a Friday off is off, even if the world is crumbling. Because precise time management.



          I am fully aware that this is not the right approach for a successful career in that company but this is not the company I would like to have a career in.






          share|improve this answer














          I also had a doctor's appointment a week ago and still need to make up work time to compensate (1.5 hours exactly).




          If "need" means "my company forces me to" (as opposed to "I have to catch up at some point"), it means it relies on apothecary methods of measuring work time. In that case a Friday off is off, even if the world is crumbling. Because precise time management.



          I am fully aware that this is not the right approach for a successful career in that company but this is not the company I would like to have a career in.







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          answered yesterday









          WoJWoJ

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              Depends on your dedication. If you want to get the job done, impress the boss, and prove your value to the company, you'll do it.






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              • I don't see why this is getting down votes...

                – goblin
                yesterday






              • 5





                @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

                – isakbob
                yesterday






              • 3





                I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

                – gnasher729
                yesterday






              • 1





                @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

                – MikeTheLiar
                yesterday






              • 2





                It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

                – V2Blast
                22 hours ago
















              -3














              Depends on your dedication. If you want to get the job done, impress the boss, and prove your value to the company, you'll do it.






              share|improve this answer
























              • I don't see why this is getting down votes...

                – goblin
                yesterday






              • 5





                @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

                – isakbob
                yesterday






              • 3





                I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

                – gnasher729
                yesterday






              • 1





                @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

                – MikeTheLiar
                yesterday






              • 2





                It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

                – V2Blast
                22 hours ago














              -3












              -3








              -3







              Depends on your dedication. If you want to get the job done, impress the boss, and prove your value to the company, you'll do it.






              share|improve this answer













              Depends on your dedication. If you want to get the job done, impress the boss, and prove your value to the company, you'll do it.







              share|improve this answer












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              answered 2 days ago









              KeithKeith

              3,5773721




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              • I don't see why this is getting down votes...

                – goblin
                yesterday






              • 5





                @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

                – isakbob
                yesterday






              • 3





                I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

                – gnasher729
                yesterday






              • 1





                @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

                – MikeTheLiar
                yesterday






              • 2





                It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

                – V2Blast
                22 hours ago



















              • I don't see why this is getting down votes...

                – goblin
                yesterday






              • 5





                @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

                – isakbob
                yesterday






              • 3





                I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

                – gnasher729
                yesterday






              • 1





                @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

                – MikeTheLiar
                yesterday






              • 2





                It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

                – V2Blast
                22 hours ago

















              I don't see why this is getting down votes...

              – goblin
              yesterday





              I don't see why this is getting down votes...

              – goblin
              yesterday




              5




              5





              @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

              – isakbob
              yesterday





              @goblin My guess: It doesn't even touch upon the ethics aspect at all, even though he might have a more concise summary of what other people are mentioning above.

              – isakbob
              yesterday




              3




              3





              I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

              – gnasher729
              yesterday





              I get the job done, impress the boss, and prove my value to the company, from Monday to Friday.

              – gnasher729
              yesterday




              1




              1





              @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

              – MikeTheLiar
              yesterday





              @gnasher729 I'm sayin'. If they want me to be available in my off hours then it damn well better be in 1) my contract and 2) my paycheck.

              – MikeTheLiar
              yesterday




              2




              2





              It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

              – V2Blast
              22 hours ago





              It also doesn't elaborate on its suggestion at all, but rather simply asserts something to be true.

              – V2Blast
              22 hours ago











              -3














              There is no ethics in business, strictly speaking, so the answer is no.



              However, from the perspective of career and expectations, if you were asked to come in on a free day and something very important depended on it, then it would be the right thing to do to come in. And the right thing for the company would be to reward this dedication, as well as give you another day of your choice off.



              In your situation, you were not explicitly asked to come in. The right thing to do would be to get clarification. By whatever is the best way to reach your boss, make it clear that if you are needed for the important deadline, you are ready to come in on your free day. Make your own guess at whether or not this will make a difference to the deadline, and then say either:



              "By my own estimate, I believe that it would be for the best of the project if I did came. I'd like your ok on that, and I will gladly move my free day somewhen else."



              or



              "By my own estimate, it won't make a difference to the deadline which we will keep/miss whether or not I come in. But if you think different and request that I come, I will do so and move my free day to another date."






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                There is no ethics in business, strictly speaking, so the answer is no.



                However, from the perspective of career and expectations, if you were asked to come in on a free day and something very important depended on it, then it would be the right thing to do to come in. And the right thing for the company would be to reward this dedication, as well as give you another day of your choice off.



                In your situation, you were not explicitly asked to come in. The right thing to do would be to get clarification. By whatever is the best way to reach your boss, make it clear that if you are needed for the important deadline, you are ready to come in on your free day. Make your own guess at whether or not this will make a difference to the deadline, and then say either:



                "By my own estimate, I believe that it would be for the best of the project if I did came. I'd like your ok on that, and I will gladly move my free day somewhen else."



                or



                "By my own estimate, it won't make a difference to the deadline which we will keep/miss whether or not I come in. But if you think different and request that I come, I will do so and move my free day to another date."






                share|improve this answer


























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                  -3








                  -3







                  There is no ethics in business, strictly speaking, so the answer is no.



                  However, from the perspective of career and expectations, if you were asked to come in on a free day and something very important depended on it, then it would be the right thing to do to come in. And the right thing for the company would be to reward this dedication, as well as give you another day of your choice off.



                  In your situation, you were not explicitly asked to come in. The right thing to do would be to get clarification. By whatever is the best way to reach your boss, make it clear that if you are needed for the important deadline, you are ready to come in on your free day. Make your own guess at whether or not this will make a difference to the deadline, and then say either:



                  "By my own estimate, I believe that it would be for the best of the project if I did came. I'd like your ok on that, and I will gladly move my free day somewhen else."



                  or



                  "By my own estimate, it won't make a difference to the deadline which we will keep/miss whether or not I come in. But if you think different and request that I come, I will do so and move my free day to another date."






                  share|improve this answer













                  There is no ethics in business, strictly speaking, so the answer is no.



                  However, from the perspective of career and expectations, if you were asked to come in on a free day and something very important depended on it, then it would be the right thing to do to come in. And the right thing for the company would be to reward this dedication, as well as give you another day of your choice off.



                  In your situation, you were not explicitly asked to come in. The right thing to do would be to get clarification. By whatever is the best way to reach your boss, make it clear that if you are needed for the important deadline, you are ready to come in on your free day. Make your own guess at whether or not this will make a difference to the deadline, and then say either:



                  "By my own estimate, I believe that it would be for the best of the project if I did came. I'd like your ok on that, and I will gladly move my free day somewhen else."



                  or



                  "By my own estimate, it won't make a difference to the deadline which we will keep/miss whether or not I come in. But if you think different and request that I come, I will do so and move my free day to another date."







                  share|improve this answer












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                  TomTom

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