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A monk's Deflect Missiles ability (PHB p. 78) triggers on the following circumstance:

Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack.

Does this work against thrown melee weapons, such as a javelin or dagger?

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A monk's Deflect Missiles ability (PHB p. 78) triggers on the following circumstance:

Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack.

Does this work against thrown melee weapons, such as a javelin or dagger?

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A monk's Deflect Missiles ability (PHB p. 78) triggers on the following circumstance:

Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack.

Does this work against thrown melee weapons, such as a javelin or dagger?

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The Sage Advice Compendium has clarified what is meant by "ranged weapon attack" (italics added).

What does “melee weapon attack” mean: a melee attack with a weapon or an attack with a melee weapon? It means a melee attack with a weapon. Similarly, “ranged weapon attack” means a ranged attack with a weapon.

If you throw a melee weapon, you are making a ranged attack, and you are using a weapon. Thus, you are making a "ranged weapon attack." Therefore, the attack is a valid one for a monk to attempt to "deflect".

Note that this definition applies even if the weapon in question doesn't have the "thrown" property (although it would then be counted as an "improvised weapon", it's still a weapon that is being used to make a ranged attack.)

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From the Equipment chapter of the Basic Rules.

Thrown. If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack.

The attack is a ranged attack using a weapon, which is a "ranged weapon attack"¹, so the Monk feature applies.

¹ The Equipment chapter does not use the phrase "ranged weapon attack" but the Combat chapter does, though only twice (one of which is in the Underwater Combat section).

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength, and the ability modifier used for a ranged weapon attack is Dexterity. Weapons that have the finesse or thrown property break this rule.

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The Sage Advice Compendium has clarified what is meant by "ranged weapon attack" (italics added).

What does “melee weapon attack” mean: a melee attack with a weapon or an attack with a melee weapon? It means a melee attack with a weapon. Similarly, “ranged weapon attack” means a ranged attack with a weapon.

If you throw a melee weapon, you are making a ranged attack, and you are using a weapon. Thus, you are making a "ranged weapon attack." Therefore, the attack is a valid one for a monk to attempt to "deflect".

Note that this definition applies even if the weapon in question doesn't have the "thrown" property (although it would then be counted as an "improvised weapon", it's still a weapon that is being used to make a ranged attack.)

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The Sage Advice Compendium has clarified what is meant by "ranged weapon attack" (italics added).

What does “melee weapon attack” mean: a melee attack with a weapon or an attack with a melee weapon? It means a melee attack with a weapon. Similarly, “ranged weapon attack” means a ranged attack with a weapon.

If you throw a melee weapon, you are making a ranged attack, and you are using a weapon. Thus, you are making a "ranged weapon attack." Therefore, the attack is a valid one for a monk to attempt to "deflect".

Note that this definition applies even if the weapon in question doesn't have the "thrown" property (although it would then be counted as an "improvised weapon", it's still a weapon that is being used to make a ranged attack.)

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Yes

The Sage Advice Compendium has clarified what is meant by "ranged weapon attack" (italics added).

What does “melee weapon attack” mean: a melee attack with a weapon or an attack with a melee weapon? It means a melee attack with a weapon. Similarly, “ranged weapon attack” means a ranged attack with a weapon.

If you throw a melee weapon, you are making a ranged attack, and you are using a weapon. Thus, you are making a "ranged weapon attack." Therefore, the attack is a valid one for a monk to attempt to "deflect".

Note that this definition applies even if the weapon in question doesn't have the "thrown" property (although it would then be counted as an "improvised weapon", it's still a weapon that is being used to make a ranged attack.)

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Yes

From the Equipment chapter of the Basic Rules.

Thrown. If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack.

The attack is a ranged attack using a weapon, which is a "ranged weapon attack"¹, so the Monk feature applies.

¹ The Equipment chapter does not use the phrase "ranged weapon attack" but the Combat chapter does, though only twice (one of which is in the Underwater Combat section).

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength, and the ability modifier used for a ranged weapon attack is Dexterity. Weapons that have the finesse or thrown property break this rule.

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  If the weapon doesn't have the thrown tag then you can't throw it. Well, you can, but it won't be an effective weapon (ranged weapon attacks using improvised weapons do 1d4 damage).
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Yes

From the Equipment chapter of the Basic Rules.

Thrown. If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack.

The attack is a ranged attack using a weapon, which is a "ranged weapon attack"¹, so the Monk feature applies.

¹ The Equipment chapter does not use the phrase "ranged weapon attack" but the Combat chapter does, though only twice (one of which is in the Underwater Combat section).

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength, and the ability modifier used for a ranged weapon attack is Dexterity. Weapons that have the finesse or thrown property break this rule.

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  What about if the weapon doesn't have the thrown property?
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  If the weapon doesn't have the thrown tag then you can't throw it. Well, you can, but it won't be an effective weapon (ranged weapon attacks using improvised weapons do 1d4 damage).
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Yes

From the Equipment chapter of the Basic Rules.

Thrown. If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack.

The attack is a ranged attack using a weapon, which is a "ranged weapon attack"¹, so the Monk feature applies.

¹ The Equipment chapter does not use the phrase "ranged weapon attack" but the Combat chapter does, though only twice (one of which is in the Underwater Combat section).

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength, and the ability modifier used for a ranged weapon attack is Dexterity. Weapons that have the finesse or thrown property break this rule.

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