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Double-nominative constructions and “von”
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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,
ein Glas Wasser
and
tausende von Büchern
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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,
ein Glas Wasser
and
tausende von Büchern
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There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
Compare English:thousands of books,a group of people, butone glass of water?
– yunzen
yesterday
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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,
ein Glas Wasser
and
tausende von Büchern
standard-german
edited yesterday
Björn Friedrich
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asked yesterday
AaronAaron
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When do you use von and when do you use a double-nominative construction, such as discussed at this linked question, when talking about the amount of something? Compare, for example,
ein Glas Wasser
and
tausende von Büchern
standard-german
standard-german
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Björn Friedrich
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AaronAaron
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Björn Friedrich
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edited yesterday
Björn Friedrich
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edited yesterday
Björn Friedrich
6,43511035
edited yesterday
Björn Friedrich
6,43511035
6,43511035
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AaronAaron
68417
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AaronAaron
68417
asked yesterday
AaronAaron
68417
68417
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There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
Compare English:thousands of books,a group of people, butone glass of water?
– yunzen
yesterday
add a comment |
2
There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
Compare English:thousands of books,a group of people, butone glass of water?
– yunzen
yesterday
2
2
There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
Compare English:
thousands of books, a group of people, but one glass of water?– yunzen
yesterday
Compare English:
thousands of books, a group of people, but one glass of water?– yunzen
yesterday
add a comment |
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The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.
Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:
Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.
Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.
The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.
Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.
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This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.
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Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
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No, it's a specific amount.
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The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.
Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:
Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.
Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.
The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.
Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.
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The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.
Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:
Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.
Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.
The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.
Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.
answered yesterday
infinitezeroinfinitezero
1,225410
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The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.
Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:
Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.
Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.
The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.
Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.
answered yesterday
infinitezeroinfinitezero
1,225410
The von construction can be used with indefinite number adjectives, such as but not limited to "dutzende, hunderte, tausende, ...". But it is optional.
Thus, both sentences are grammatically correct and used:
Es wurden tausende Bücher verbrannt.
Es wurden tausende von Büchern verbrannt.
The latter construction puts more emphasis on the number.
Saying "Ich möchte ein Glas von Wasser" would be ungrammatical, because here you have a definite amount of glasses, namely 1.
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answered yesterday
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This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.
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yunzen
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guidotguidot
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Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
– infinitezero
yesterday
add a comment |
This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.
edited yesterday
yunzen
1235
answered yesterday
guidotguidot
12.9k1546
Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
– infinitezero
yesterday
add a comment |
This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.
edited yesterday
yunzen
1235
answered yesterday
guidotguidot
12.9k1546
This is a Partitive Apposition, see Canoo.net. It is just specification of an amount. Similarly constructed are drei Liter Wasser, 100g Mehl.
edited yesterday
yunzen
1235
answered yesterday
guidotguidot
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yunzen
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yunzen
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Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
– infinitezero
yesterday
add a comment |
Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
– infinitezero
yesterday
Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
Okay, can your examples be phrased with von as well??
– Wilson
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
– infinitezero
yesterday
No, it's a specific amount.
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There is also an archaic construct "Ein Kästchen von Ebenholz" - where "von" was used in the sense of "aus"
– tofro
yesterday
Compare English:
thousands of books,a group of people, butone glass of water?– yunzen
yesterday