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What is an “asse” in Elizabethan English?
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In the "New Yer's Guiftes giuen to The Quene's Maiestie" we find
two handkerchives of Hollande, wroughte with blacke worke, and edged with a smale bone lace of golde and siluer; and an asse of golde enamuled.
I can imagine a piece of jewelry shaped as a donkey but this seems rather odd. The other kind of ass is not very much suitable as a royal gift, even when of golde enamuled. Is there some other meaning? I cannot find any.
Edit: this can be found in The Progresses and Public Processions of Queen Elizabeth
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In the "New Yer's Guiftes giuen to The Quene's Maiestie" we find
two handkerchives of Hollande, wroughte with blacke worke, and edged with a smale bone lace of golde and siluer; and an asse of golde enamuled.
I can imagine a piece of jewelry shaped as a donkey but this seems rather odd. The other kind of ass is not very much suitable as a royal gift, even when of golde enamuled. Is there some other meaning? I cannot find any.
Edit: this can be found in The Progresses and Public Processions of Queen Elizabeth
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In the "New Yer's Guiftes giuen to The Quene's Maiestie" we find
two handkerchives of Hollande, wroughte with blacke worke, and edged with a smale bone lace of golde and siluer; and an asse of golde enamuled.
I can imagine a piece of jewelry shaped as a donkey but this seems rather odd. The other kind of ass is not very much suitable as a royal gift, even when of golde enamuled. Is there some other meaning? I cannot find any.
Edit: this can be found in The Progresses and Public Processions of Queen Elizabeth
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In the "New Yer's Guiftes giuen to The Quene's Maiestie" we find
two handkerchives of Hollande, wroughte with blacke worke, and edged with a smale bone lace of golde and siluer; and an asse of golde enamuled.
I can imagine a piece of jewelry shaped as a donkey but this seems rather odd. The other kind of ass is not very much suitable as a royal gift, even when of golde enamuled. Is there some other meaning? I cannot find any.
Edit: this can be found in The Progresses and Public Processions of Queen Elizabeth
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Although I can't vouch for that particular gift, the concept of a Golden Ass is ancient and would be well-known to any educated person in England at the time. The Metamorphoses of Apuleius, commonly known as The Golden Ass, is notable as the only surviving Roman novel.
The Ass of the title is the character Lucius, who is transformed into a donkey and undergoes a series of misadventures involving the gods.
answered 12 hours ago
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I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
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@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
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Although I can't vouch for that particular gift, the concept of a Golden Ass is ancient and would be well-known to any educated person in England at the time. The Metamorphoses of Apuleius, commonly known as The Golden Ass, is notable as the only surviving Roman novel.
The Ass of the title is the character Lucius, who is transformed into a donkey and undergoes a series of misadventures involving the gods.
answered 12 hours ago
Mark BeadlesMark Beadles
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I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
6
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
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Although I can't vouch for that particular gift, the concept of a Golden Ass is ancient and would be well-known to any educated person in England at the time. The Metamorphoses of Apuleius, commonly known as The Golden Ass, is notable as the only surviving Roman novel.
The Ass of the title is the character Lucius, who is transformed into a donkey and undergoes a series of misadventures involving the gods.
answered 12 hours ago
Mark BeadlesMark Beadles
21.1k36093
I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
6
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Although I can't vouch for that particular gift, the concept of a Golden Ass is ancient and would be well-known to any educated person in England at the time. The Metamorphoses of Apuleius, commonly known as The Golden Ass, is notable as the only surviving Roman novel.
The Ass of the title is the character Lucius, who is transformed into a donkey and undergoes a series of misadventures involving the gods.
answered 12 hours ago
Mark BeadlesMark Beadles
21.1k36093
Although I can't vouch for that particular gift, the concept of a Golden Ass is ancient and would be well-known to any educated person in England at the time. The Metamorphoses of Apuleius, commonly known as The Golden Ass, is notable as the only surviving Roman novel.
The Ass of the title is the character Lucius, who is transformed into a donkey and undergoes a series of misadventures involving the gods.
answered 12 hours ago
Mark BeadlesMark Beadles
21.1k36093
answered 12 hours ago
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answered 12 hours ago
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answered 12 hours ago
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I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
6
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
6
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
I'm not an educated person but I happen to know about The Golden Ass too :) A piece of jewelry could be made to remind of Lucius, nothing wrong with that, but why isn't the gift listed as a pendant, or a brooch, or whatever it is?
– n.m.
12 hours ago
6
6
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
@n.m. Where does it say it's a piece of wearable jewelry? It could just as well be a figurine, statuette, tchotchke, etc.
– Mark Beadles
11 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
Um, I'm not sure Elizabethan English had the word tchotchke :) But whatever kind of thing it was I think it is strange for a list like this to omit the kind and just mention the shape.
– n.m.
8 hours ago
3
3
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
It would be normal for such a list to say "a ship of gold" rather than "a gold model of a ship". Since the word "donkey" either did not exist at the time or was too childish/colloquial for the OED to find any example before 1785, your phrase would be the normal description for a golden sculpture. Why somebody thought such a thing a suitable present for the Queen would be an interesting question for History.SE.
– TimLymington
3 hours ago
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