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Here is my problem:



A) Goal



Connecting a MacBook Pro 13'', Early 2011 (MacBookPro8,1) to a Laptop Docking Station (Sabrent DS-RICA) via USB 3.0.



B) Situation/Setup



Said docking station only supports input via USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), which would be fine if it weren't for said MacBook which can only output via USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) over its USB ports since that was the standard at the time this laptop was built. So at the moment I'm connection said MacBook via an USB 2.0 A port via an USB 2.0 A-B cable to the USB 3.0 B port of said docking station.



Everything else - apart from power which is connected directly to the laptop - so ethernet, DVI monitor, sound via 3.5 mm jack, USB mouse, USB keyboard and some additional USB devices (external drive and a USB HUB) are connected to said docking station and all those signals have to be transmitted via the USB 2.0 cable between the docking station and the laptop.



C) Problem



With this setup I'm getting hard delays on the attached screen of up to one second, e.g. when I type (maybe 1/4 of a second), but especially when scrolling down internet pages or anything within the browser. The same delays, even longer ones, occur when I open folders in the MacOS (10.11) dock: The fan and grid view take quite some time to be displayed, not to talk about when I try to click an item... Also some minor screen errors occur (pinkish grey instead of grey as color of the top bar of windows). But all in all the delays annoy the most.



All of those problems do not occur when I'm opening my laptop and work (windows etc. displayed on) its own screen but still being connected to the internet and USB devices etc. via the docking station (DisplayLink Drivers seem to work fine)...



D) Leads / How I'm trying to solve my problem



So I reckon this is because I demand too much of that USB 2.0 connection, 480 Mbps might be not enough for all this data, especially for transmitting the video signal as it seems. But please correct me if I'm wrong or you see the problem somewhere else.



I therefore think about changing the connection type.



According to this, my MacBook Pro has three wired data in- and output ports other than USB 2.0 (and SD card slot and 3.5 mm socket), which might serve as alternative for the connection to the docking station:




  • Ethernet 1000BASE-T (IEEE 802.3ab) port at up to 1 Gbps, depending on the used ethernet cable.


  • FireWire 800 port at 800 Mbps.


  • Thunderbolt 1 port at 10 Gbps.



I will therefore need an adapter at some point, I guess. As of my inquires (e.g.), a FireWire signal cannot be translated into a USB signal easily with an adapter, at least not at a reasonable cost.



So only 1. and 3., ethernet to USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 will be in question. I am looking for the most reliable or at least working option for the best price. I've found the following three options:





  1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A female to USB 3.0 B male (e.g. here). Probably the cheapest option.
    But I'm not sure if this, that is ethernet, supports a data
    connection to a docking station
    at all; it might only work in the
    other direction - comments on this are much appreciated! About USD
    30 + 8 = USD 38, where I plan to buy.


  2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here, also
    here). Most straight forward option, but incredibly expensive
    and quite a large thing (my MacBook is placed vertically in a laptop
    stand next to the docking station; this adapter will hang down its
    side...), but will probably do the trick... USD 80-120, where I plan
    to buy.


  3. The adapter train: Thunderbolt male-male cable (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 1/2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 3 female-female adapter (I cannot find this in my
    country though! - suggestions?) + Thunderbolt 3 to USB 3.0 A
    Adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A-B cable (I already have this,
    lucky me...). Incredibly complicated, but should work, if I can get
    all components (!) and maybe less expensive than option II): USD
    24-47 + 31-46 + 10? + 9-20 + UBS 3.0 A-B already owned = USD
    74-120...


E) Questions




  • A) Is my assumption correct, that the problem comes from the overtaxed
    USB 2.0 connection?

  • B) If yes, can my approach solve the problem? Which option is the most
    promising?

  • C) Or is there a way to upgrade the USB 2.0 ports of my MacBook Pro to
    USB 3.x ports?


Any suggestions, also on a less complicated option 3, are greatly appreciated!










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  • While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

    – music2myear
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Here is my problem:



A) Goal



Connecting a MacBook Pro 13'', Early 2011 (MacBookPro8,1) to a Laptop Docking Station (Sabrent DS-RICA) via USB 3.0.



B) Situation/Setup



Said docking station only supports input via USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), which would be fine if it weren't for said MacBook which can only output via USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) over its USB ports since that was the standard at the time this laptop was built. So at the moment I'm connection said MacBook via an USB 2.0 A port via an USB 2.0 A-B cable to the USB 3.0 B port of said docking station.



Everything else - apart from power which is connected directly to the laptop - so ethernet, DVI monitor, sound via 3.5 mm jack, USB mouse, USB keyboard and some additional USB devices (external drive and a USB HUB) are connected to said docking station and all those signals have to be transmitted via the USB 2.0 cable between the docking station and the laptop.



C) Problem



With this setup I'm getting hard delays on the attached screen of up to one second, e.g. when I type (maybe 1/4 of a second), but especially when scrolling down internet pages or anything within the browser. The same delays, even longer ones, occur when I open folders in the MacOS (10.11) dock: The fan and grid view take quite some time to be displayed, not to talk about when I try to click an item... Also some minor screen errors occur (pinkish grey instead of grey as color of the top bar of windows). But all in all the delays annoy the most.



All of those problems do not occur when I'm opening my laptop and work (windows etc. displayed on) its own screen but still being connected to the internet and USB devices etc. via the docking station (DisplayLink Drivers seem to work fine)...



D) Leads / How I'm trying to solve my problem



So I reckon this is because I demand too much of that USB 2.0 connection, 480 Mbps might be not enough for all this data, especially for transmitting the video signal as it seems. But please correct me if I'm wrong or you see the problem somewhere else.



I therefore think about changing the connection type.



According to this, my MacBook Pro has three wired data in- and output ports other than USB 2.0 (and SD card slot and 3.5 mm socket), which might serve as alternative for the connection to the docking station:




  • Ethernet 1000BASE-T (IEEE 802.3ab) port at up to 1 Gbps, depending on the used ethernet cable.


  • FireWire 800 port at 800 Mbps.


  • Thunderbolt 1 port at 10 Gbps.



I will therefore need an adapter at some point, I guess. As of my inquires (e.g.), a FireWire signal cannot be translated into a USB signal easily with an adapter, at least not at a reasonable cost.



So only 1. and 3., ethernet to USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 will be in question. I am looking for the most reliable or at least working option for the best price. I've found the following three options:





  1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A female to USB 3.0 B male (e.g. here). Probably the cheapest option.
    But I'm not sure if this, that is ethernet, supports a data
    connection to a docking station
    at all; it might only work in the
    other direction - comments on this are much appreciated! About USD
    30 + 8 = USD 38, where I plan to buy.


  2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here, also
    here). Most straight forward option, but incredibly expensive
    and quite a large thing (my MacBook is placed vertically in a laptop
    stand next to the docking station; this adapter will hang down its
    side...), but will probably do the trick... USD 80-120, where I plan
    to buy.


  3. The adapter train: Thunderbolt male-male cable (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 1/2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 3 female-female adapter (I cannot find this in my
    country though! - suggestions?) + Thunderbolt 3 to USB 3.0 A
    Adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A-B cable (I already have this,
    lucky me...). Incredibly complicated, but should work, if I can get
    all components (!) and maybe less expensive than option II): USD
    24-47 + 31-46 + 10? + 9-20 + UBS 3.0 A-B already owned = USD
    74-120...


E) Questions




  • A) Is my assumption correct, that the problem comes from the overtaxed
    USB 2.0 connection?

  • B) If yes, can my approach solve the problem? Which option is the most
    promising?

  • C) Or is there a way to upgrade the USB 2.0 ports of my MacBook Pro to
    USB 3.x ports?


Any suggestions, also on a less complicated option 3, are greatly appreciated!










share|improve this question

























  • While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

    – music2myear
    Dec 10 '18 at 18:55














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0








Here is my problem:



A) Goal



Connecting a MacBook Pro 13'', Early 2011 (MacBookPro8,1) to a Laptop Docking Station (Sabrent DS-RICA) via USB 3.0.



B) Situation/Setup



Said docking station only supports input via USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), which would be fine if it weren't for said MacBook which can only output via USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) over its USB ports since that was the standard at the time this laptop was built. So at the moment I'm connection said MacBook via an USB 2.0 A port via an USB 2.0 A-B cable to the USB 3.0 B port of said docking station.



Everything else - apart from power which is connected directly to the laptop - so ethernet, DVI monitor, sound via 3.5 mm jack, USB mouse, USB keyboard and some additional USB devices (external drive and a USB HUB) are connected to said docking station and all those signals have to be transmitted via the USB 2.0 cable between the docking station and the laptop.



C) Problem



With this setup I'm getting hard delays on the attached screen of up to one second, e.g. when I type (maybe 1/4 of a second), but especially when scrolling down internet pages or anything within the browser. The same delays, even longer ones, occur when I open folders in the MacOS (10.11) dock: The fan and grid view take quite some time to be displayed, not to talk about when I try to click an item... Also some minor screen errors occur (pinkish grey instead of grey as color of the top bar of windows). But all in all the delays annoy the most.



All of those problems do not occur when I'm opening my laptop and work (windows etc. displayed on) its own screen but still being connected to the internet and USB devices etc. via the docking station (DisplayLink Drivers seem to work fine)...



D) Leads / How I'm trying to solve my problem



So I reckon this is because I demand too much of that USB 2.0 connection, 480 Mbps might be not enough for all this data, especially for transmitting the video signal as it seems. But please correct me if I'm wrong or you see the problem somewhere else.



I therefore think about changing the connection type.



According to this, my MacBook Pro has three wired data in- and output ports other than USB 2.0 (and SD card slot and 3.5 mm socket), which might serve as alternative for the connection to the docking station:




  • Ethernet 1000BASE-T (IEEE 802.3ab) port at up to 1 Gbps, depending on the used ethernet cable.


  • FireWire 800 port at 800 Mbps.


  • Thunderbolt 1 port at 10 Gbps.



I will therefore need an adapter at some point, I guess. As of my inquires (e.g.), a FireWire signal cannot be translated into a USB signal easily with an adapter, at least not at a reasonable cost.



So only 1. and 3., ethernet to USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 will be in question. I am looking for the most reliable or at least working option for the best price. I've found the following three options:





  1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A female to USB 3.0 B male (e.g. here). Probably the cheapest option.
    But I'm not sure if this, that is ethernet, supports a data
    connection to a docking station
    at all; it might only work in the
    other direction - comments on this are much appreciated! About USD
    30 + 8 = USD 38, where I plan to buy.


  2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here, also
    here). Most straight forward option, but incredibly expensive
    and quite a large thing (my MacBook is placed vertically in a laptop
    stand next to the docking station; this adapter will hang down its
    side...), but will probably do the trick... USD 80-120, where I plan
    to buy.


  3. The adapter train: Thunderbolt male-male cable (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 1/2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 3 female-female adapter (I cannot find this in my
    country though! - suggestions?) + Thunderbolt 3 to USB 3.0 A
    Adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A-B cable (I already have this,
    lucky me...). Incredibly complicated, but should work, if I can get
    all components (!) and maybe less expensive than option II): USD
    24-47 + 31-46 + 10? + 9-20 + UBS 3.0 A-B already owned = USD
    74-120...


E) Questions




  • A) Is my assumption correct, that the problem comes from the overtaxed
    USB 2.0 connection?

  • B) If yes, can my approach solve the problem? Which option is the most
    promising?

  • C) Or is there a way to upgrade the USB 2.0 ports of my MacBook Pro to
    USB 3.x ports?


Any suggestions, also on a less complicated option 3, are greatly appreciated!










share|improve this question
















Here is my problem:



A) Goal



Connecting a MacBook Pro 13'', Early 2011 (MacBookPro8,1) to a Laptop Docking Station (Sabrent DS-RICA) via USB 3.0.



B) Situation/Setup



Said docking station only supports input via USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), which would be fine if it weren't for said MacBook which can only output via USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) over its USB ports since that was the standard at the time this laptop was built. So at the moment I'm connection said MacBook via an USB 2.0 A port via an USB 2.0 A-B cable to the USB 3.0 B port of said docking station.



Everything else - apart from power which is connected directly to the laptop - so ethernet, DVI monitor, sound via 3.5 mm jack, USB mouse, USB keyboard and some additional USB devices (external drive and a USB HUB) are connected to said docking station and all those signals have to be transmitted via the USB 2.0 cable between the docking station and the laptop.



C) Problem



With this setup I'm getting hard delays on the attached screen of up to one second, e.g. when I type (maybe 1/4 of a second), but especially when scrolling down internet pages or anything within the browser. The same delays, even longer ones, occur when I open folders in the MacOS (10.11) dock: The fan and grid view take quite some time to be displayed, not to talk about when I try to click an item... Also some minor screen errors occur (pinkish grey instead of grey as color of the top bar of windows). But all in all the delays annoy the most.



All of those problems do not occur when I'm opening my laptop and work (windows etc. displayed on) its own screen but still being connected to the internet and USB devices etc. via the docking station (DisplayLink Drivers seem to work fine)...



D) Leads / How I'm trying to solve my problem



So I reckon this is because I demand too much of that USB 2.0 connection, 480 Mbps might be not enough for all this data, especially for transmitting the video signal as it seems. But please correct me if I'm wrong or you see the problem somewhere else.



I therefore think about changing the connection type.



According to this, my MacBook Pro has three wired data in- and output ports other than USB 2.0 (and SD card slot and 3.5 mm socket), which might serve as alternative for the connection to the docking station:




  • Ethernet 1000BASE-T (IEEE 802.3ab) port at up to 1 Gbps, depending on the used ethernet cable.


  • FireWire 800 port at 800 Mbps.


  • Thunderbolt 1 port at 10 Gbps.



I will therefore need an adapter at some point, I guess. As of my inquires (e.g.), a FireWire signal cannot be translated into a USB signal easily with an adapter, at least not at a reasonable cost.



So only 1. and 3., ethernet to USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 will be in question. I am looking for the most reliable or at least working option for the best price. I've found the following three options:





  1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A female to USB 3.0 B male (e.g. here). Probably the cheapest option.
    But I'm not sure if this, that is ethernet, supports a data
    connection to a docking station
    at all; it might only work in the
    other direction - comments on this are much appreciated! About USD
    30 + 8 = USD 38, where I plan to buy.


  2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter (e.g. here, also
    here). Most straight forward option, but incredibly expensive
    and quite a large thing (my MacBook is placed vertically in a laptop
    stand next to the docking station; this adapter will hang down its
    side...), but will probably do the trick... USD 80-120, where I plan
    to buy.


  3. The adapter train: Thunderbolt male-male cable (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 1/2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter (e.g. here) + Thunderbolt 3 female-female adapter (I cannot find this in my
    country though! - suggestions?) + Thunderbolt 3 to USB 3.0 A
    Adapter (e.g. here) + USB 3.0 A-B cable (I already have this,
    lucky me...). Incredibly complicated, but should work, if I can get
    all components (!) and maybe less expensive than option II): USD
    24-47 + 31-46 + 10? + 9-20 + UBS 3.0 A-B already owned = USD
    74-120...


E) Questions




  • A) Is my assumption correct, that the problem comes from the overtaxed
    USB 2.0 connection?

  • B) If yes, can my approach solve the problem? Which option is the most
    promising?

  • C) Or is there a way to upgrade the USB 2.0 ports of my MacBook Pro to
    USB 3.x ports?


Any suggestions, also on a less complicated option 3, are greatly appreciated!







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  • While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

    – music2myear
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  • While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

    – music2myear
    Dec 10 '18 at 18:55

















While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

– music2myear
Dec 10 '18 at 18:55





While this question falls pretty firmly into being Too Broad and a Hardware Shopping Recommendation, as phrased and answered it is a concrete and specific question that has been specifically answered and as such is a positive bit of knowledge here on SU. For this reason, I believe it should NOT be closed.

– music2myear
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Conclusion



After long deliberation, the all-knowing Stack Exchange Community has spoken: None of my options work.



EDIT!! Option one, this Adapter or a similar product (like this), will probably do the job after all and despite the explanation below as indicated by the accepted answer to this question. But next paragraph still has a point!



The only reasonable and working solution is to buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 dock (@JamesP) (All MBP owners with only USB 2.0 ports please note: Do not buy a USB docking station, but do buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 one or even a TB 3 one with a TB 1/2>3 adapter (to have a TB 3 dock for newer computers) instead, if you badly want a dock!!), which are quite pricy (new about USD 200-300) or - more probably reasonable - buy a new MPB with the latest (USB 3.0) ports (and a thunderbolt 3 dock, which is about as pricy as the Thunderbolt 1/2 ones OR).



Explanation



Mostly because of unequal signal "languages" or "losses" while translating from Thunderbold/Ethernet to USB and the therefore impossible back-translation from USB to the others:





  1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @Christopher Hostage's answer to the question.


  2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @JamesP's comments beneath the question. And @Allan's explanations here and here.


  3. The adapter train: Same as 2.


Thanks to those three people, the question is answered! A last advice: The cheapest way is probably not to use a dock or only partially (as a USB HUB with ethernet xD) and plug the external monitor into the Thunderbolt 1 slot with a DVI/VGA etc. adapter, so that the USB 2.0 connection is not overtaxed.



P.S. No one actually confirmed that my screen delays are because of the USB 2.0 connection, but I'm assuming sure that this is silently implied by all the answers, so I'll consider my question closed anyways.






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    I don't think any of those three options in the initial question will work.




    1. "USB to Ethernet Adapter" is not the same as "Ethernet to USB adapter". The adapter is intended to have its USB port plugged into a computer. The docking station is a "client" device for USB 2. USB 3 blurs the line between client device and computer, but in your case it would function as a traditional USB 2 device.


    2. EDITED : The 2011 MacBook was the first to include Thunderbolt ports. #2 might be possible, but I suggest buying from a vendor that allows returns. Same with #3, but it would be so much effort with so little chance of success that you might as well get a used more-modern laptop.



    https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1566/en_US/macbook_pro_13inch_early2011.pdf






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      did you ever try express card to usb 3.0 https://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-34mm-Adapter-Dual-Port/dp/B0045BLP1S






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        MacBook Pro 13'', Early 2011 does not support the product you are suggesting. Please read the author's question again and limit answers that apply to the author's question.

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      After long deliberation, the all-knowing Stack Exchange Community has spoken: None of my options work.



      EDIT!! Option one, this Adapter or a similar product (like this), will probably do the job after all and despite the explanation below as indicated by the accepted answer to this question. But next paragraph still has a point!



      The only reasonable and working solution is to buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 dock (@JamesP) (All MBP owners with only USB 2.0 ports please note: Do not buy a USB docking station, but do buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 one or even a TB 3 one with a TB 1/2>3 adapter (to have a TB 3 dock for newer computers) instead, if you badly want a dock!!), which are quite pricy (new about USD 200-300) or - more probably reasonable - buy a new MPB with the latest (USB 3.0) ports (and a thunderbolt 3 dock, which is about as pricy as the Thunderbolt 1/2 ones OR).



      Explanation



      Mostly because of unequal signal "languages" or "losses" while translating from Thunderbold/Ethernet to USB and the therefore impossible back-translation from USB to the others:





      1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @Christopher Hostage's answer to the question.


      2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @JamesP's comments beneath the question. And @Allan's explanations here and here.


      3. The adapter train: Same as 2.


      Thanks to those three people, the question is answered! A last advice: The cheapest way is probably not to use a dock or only partially (as a USB HUB with ethernet xD) and plug the external monitor into the Thunderbolt 1 slot with a DVI/VGA etc. adapter, so that the USB 2.0 connection is not overtaxed.



      P.S. No one actually confirmed that my screen delays are because of the USB 2.0 connection, but I'm assuming sure that this is silently implied by all the answers, so I'll consider my question closed anyways.






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        Conclusion



        After long deliberation, the all-knowing Stack Exchange Community has spoken: None of my options work.



        EDIT!! Option one, this Adapter or a similar product (like this), will probably do the job after all and despite the explanation below as indicated by the accepted answer to this question. But next paragraph still has a point!



        The only reasonable and working solution is to buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 dock (@JamesP) (All MBP owners with only USB 2.0 ports please note: Do not buy a USB docking station, but do buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 one or even a TB 3 one with a TB 1/2>3 adapter (to have a TB 3 dock for newer computers) instead, if you badly want a dock!!), which are quite pricy (new about USD 200-300) or - more probably reasonable - buy a new MPB with the latest (USB 3.0) ports (and a thunderbolt 3 dock, which is about as pricy as the Thunderbolt 1/2 ones OR).



        Explanation



        Mostly because of unequal signal "languages" or "losses" while translating from Thunderbold/Ethernet to USB and the therefore impossible back-translation from USB to the others:





        1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @Christopher Hostage's answer to the question.


        2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @JamesP's comments beneath the question. And @Allan's explanations here and here.


        3. The adapter train: Same as 2.


        Thanks to those three people, the question is answered! A last advice: The cheapest way is probably not to use a dock or only partially (as a USB HUB with ethernet xD) and plug the external monitor into the Thunderbolt 1 slot with a DVI/VGA etc. adapter, so that the USB 2.0 connection is not overtaxed.



        P.S. No one actually confirmed that my screen delays are because of the USB 2.0 connection, but I'm assuming sure that this is silently implied by all the answers, so I'll consider my question closed anyways.






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          Conclusion



          After long deliberation, the all-knowing Stack Exchange Community has spoken: None of my options work.



          EDIT!! Option one, this Adapter or a similar product (like this), will probably do the job after all and despite the explanation below as indicated by the accepted answer to this question. But next paragraph still has a point!



          The only reasonable and working solution is to buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 dock (@JamesP) (All MBP owners with only USB 2.0 ports please note: Do not buy a USB docking station, but do buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 one or even a TB 3 one with a TB 1/2>3 adapter (to have a TB 3 dock for newer computers) instead, if you badly want a dock!!), which are quite pricy (new about USD 200-300) or - more probably reasonable - buy a new MPB with the latest (USB 3.0) ports (and a thunderbolt 3 dock, which is about as pricy as the Thunderbolt 1/2 ones OR).



          Explanation



          Mostly because of unequal signal "languages" or "losses" while translating from Thunderbold/Ethernet to USB and the therefore impossible back-translation from USB to the others:





          1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @Christopher Hostage's answer to the question.


          2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @JamesP's comments beneath the question. And @Allan's explanations here and here.


          3. The adapter train: Same as 2.


          Thanks to those three people, the question is answered! A last advice: The cheapest way is probably not to use a dock or only partially (as a USB HUB with ethernet xD) and plug the external monitor into the Thunderbolt 1 slot with a DVI/VGA etc. adapter, so that the USB 2.0 connection is not overtaxed.



          P.S. No one actually confirmed that my screen delays are because of the USB 2.0 connection, but I'm assuming sure that this is silently implied by all the answers, so I'll consider my question closed anyways.






          share|improve this answer















          Conclusion



          After long deliberation, the all-knowing Stack Exchange Community has spoken: None of my options work.



          EDIT!! Option one, this Adapter or a similar product (like this), will probably do the job after all and despite the explanation below as indicated by the accepted answer to this question. But next paragraph still has a point!



          The only reasonable and working solution is to buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 dock (@JamesP) (All MBP owners with only USB 2.0 ports please note: Do not buy a USB docking station, but do buy a Thunderbolt 1/2 one or even a TB 3 one with a TB 1/2>3 adapter (to have a TB 3 dock for newer computers) instead, if you badly want a dock!!), which are quite pricy (new about USD 200-300) or - more probably reasonable - buy a new MPB with the latest (USB 3.0) ports (and a thunderbolt 3 dock, which is about as pricy as the Thunderbolt 1/2 ones OR).



          Explanation



          Mostly because of unequal signal "languages" or "losses" while translating from Thunderbold/Ethernet to USB and the therefore impossible back-translation from USB to the others:





          1. Ethernet to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @Christopher Hostage's answer to the question.


          2. Thunderbolt 1 to USB 3.0 adapter: Read @JamesP's comments beneath the question. And @Allan's explanations here and here.


          3. The adapter train: Same as 2.


          Thanks to those three people, the question is answered! A last advice: The cheapest way is probably not to use a dock or only partially (as a USB HUB with ethernet xD) and plug the external monitor into the Thunderbolt 1 slot with a DVI/VGA etc. adapter, so that the USB 2.0 connection is not overtaxed.



          P.S. No one actually confirmed that my screen delays are because of the USB 2.0 connection, but I'm assuming sure that this is silently implied by all the answers, so I'll consider my question closed anyways.







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              I don't think any of those three options in the initial question will work.




              1. "USB to Ethernet Adapter" is not the same as "Ethernet to USB adapter". The adapter is intended to have its USB port plugged into a computer. The docking station is a "client" device for USB 2. USB 3 blurs the line between client device and computer, but in your case it would function as a traditional USB 2 device.


              2. EDITED : The 2011 MacBook was the first to include Thunderbolt ports. #2 might be possible, but I suggest buying from a vendor that allows returns. Same with #3, but it would be so much effort with so little chance of success that you might as well get a used more-modern laptop.



              https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1566/en_US/macbook_pro_13inch_early2011.pdf






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                I don't think any of those three options in the initial question will work.




                1. "USB to Ethernet Adapter" is not the same as "Ethernet to USB adapter". The adapter is intended to have its USB port plugged into a computer. The docking station is a "client" device for USB 2. USB 3 blurs the line between client device and computer, but in your case it would function as a traditional USB 2 device.


                2. EDITED : The 2011 MacBook was the first to include Thunderbolt ports. #2 might be possible, but I suggest buying from a vendor that allows returns. Same with #3, but it would be so much effort with so little chance of success that you might as well get a used more-modern laptop.



                https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1566/en_US/macbook_pro_13inch_early2011.pdf






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                  I don't think any of those three options in the initial question will work.




                  1. "USB to Ethernet Adapter" is not the same as "Ethernet to USB adapter". The adapter is intended to have its USB port plugged into a computer. The docking station is a "client" device for USB 2. USB 3 blurs the line between client device and computer, but in your case it would function as a traditional USB 2 device.


                  2. EDITED : The 2011 MacBook was the first to include Thunderbolt ports. #2 might be possible, but I suggest buying from a vendor that allows returns. Same with #3, but it would be so much effort with so little chance of success that you might as well get a used more-modern laptop.



                  https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1566/en_US/macbook_pro_13inch_early2011.pdf






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                  I don't think any of those three options in the initial question will work.




                  1. "USB to Ethernet Adapter" is not the same as "Ethernet to USB adapter". The adapter is intended to have its USB port plugged into a computer. The docking station is a "client" device for USB 2. USB 3 blurs the line between client device and computer, but in your case it would function as a traditional USB 2 device.


                  2. EDITED : The 2011 MacBook was the first to include Thunderbolt ports. #2 might be possible, but I suggest buying from a vendor that allows returns. Same with #3, but it would be so much effort with so little chance of success that you might as well get a used more-modern laptop.



                  https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1566/en_US/macbook_pro_13inch_early2011.pdf







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                      did you ever try express card to usb 3.0 https://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-34mm-Adapter-Dual-Port/dp/B0045BLP1S






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