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Windows 10 very long startup


Windows 10 boot time : previously 20 seconds, now 6-8 X moreWindows 7 Startup fails after installationVery Slow Boot Time Windows 7 with SSDWindows startup errors/GRUB “gone”WIndows SessionInit taking way too long on cold bootEnable WOL while keeping “Fast Startup” in Windows 10Windows 10 SSD performance suddenly low after an updateInaccessible Boot Device Bluescreen after Security Update on Windows 10Windows 10 recovery made on bigger disk to recover to smaller oneNeed help analyzing Windows Performance Recorder ETL file to figure out whats causing slow boot on my SSDWindows 8.1 - slow boot, long session init













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I have a MSI GS43VR 6RE laptop. It's pretty powerful and I have 2 SSDs (512 GB M.2 + 1TB Sata) instead of original SSD 128GB + HDD 1TB. Startup time always took about 2-3 seconds. After one of big Windows 10 updates (not sure which one, but it probably was Spring Creators Update) startup time increased to couple of minutes (the part when I see MSI logo on black background and spinning circle loader). I ignored it for a long time because everything else was working fine and I was hoping that it will be fixed in next update(s). But still no changes so I finally decided to make clean windows install and forget about this problem. But surprisingly it didn't help. I tried to install manufacturer drivers from MSI website and I also tried to install latest drivers but it also didn't help. BIOS is latest version, tried to set default settings. I believe this is something that came with updates because I found a lot of reports from different people with same problem. Unfortunately I didn't found solution that works for me so I'm asking here.
Here I found something similar (but not same) and instruction how to create ETL report file for Windows Boot. So I did (unpacked and Zipped - which is better for you guys). Strange thing is that almost all boot time is Idle, i don't known what does it mean. Or maybe I missed something and there is a way to look deeper? And also I have ntbtlog.txt which also has strange moments, look here:



BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys


So it loads this files first time and after that it tries to load them again and again. Here is full versions of my diagnostic files:



https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArTf1Gx90XNakNQbupjd9T8-MJHANw










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  • Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    4 hours ago











  • OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    3 hours ago
















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I have a MSI GS43VR 6RE laptop. It's pretty powerful and I have 2 SSDs (512 GB M.2 + 1TB Sata) instead of original SSD 128GB + HDD 1TB. Startup time always took about 2-3 seconds. After one of big Windows 10 updates (not sure which one, but it probably was Spring Creators Update) startup time increased to couple of minutes (the part when I see MSI logo on black background and spinning circle loader). I ignored it for a long time because everything else was working fine and I was hoping that it will be fixed in next update(s). But still no changes so I finally decided to make clean windows install and forget about this problem. But surprisingly it didn't help. I tried to install manufacturer drivers from MSI website and I also tried to install latest drivers but it also didn't help. BIOS is latest version, tried to set default settings. I believe this is something that came with updates because I found a lot of reports from different people with same problem. Unfortunately I didn't found solution that works for me so I'm asking here.
Here I found something similar (but not same) and instruction how to create ETL report file for Windows Boot. So I did (unpacked and Zipped - which is better for you guys). Strange thing is that almost all boot time is Idle, i don't known what does it mean. Or maybe I missed something and there is a way to look deeper? And also I have ntbtlog.txt which also has strange moments, look here:



BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys


So it loads this files first time and after that it tries to load them again and again. Here is full versions of my diagnostic files:



https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArTf1Gx90XNakNQbupjd9T8-MJHANw










share|improve this question







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  • Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    4 hours ago











  • OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    3 hours ago














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I have a MSI GS43VR 6RE laptop. It's pretty powerful and I have 2 SSDs (512 GB M.2 + 1TB Sata) instead of original SSD 128GB + HDD 1TB. Startup time always took about 2-3 seconds. After one of big Windows 10 updates (not sure which one, but it probably was Spring Creators Update) startup time increased to couple of minutes (the part when I see MSI logo on black background and spinning circle loader). I ignored it for a long time because everything else was working fine and I was hoping that it will be fixed in next update(s). But still no changes so I finally decided to make clean windows install and forget about this problem. But surprisingly it didn't help. I tried to install manufacturer drivers from MSI website and I also tried to install latest drivers but it also didn't help. BIOS is latest version, tried to set default settings. I believe this is something that came with updates because I found a lot of reports from different people with same problem. Unfortunately I didn't found solution that works for me so I'm asking here.
Here I found something similar (but not same) and instruction how to create ETL report file for Windows Boot. So I did (unpacked and Zipped - which is better for you guys). Strange thing is that almost all boot time is Idle, i don't known what does it mean. Or maybe I missed something and there is a way to look deeper? And also I have ntbtlog.txt which also has strange moments, look here:



BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys


So it loads this files first time and after that it tries to load them again and again. Here is full versions of my diagnostic files:



https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArTf1Gx90XNakNQbupjd9T8-MJHANw










share|improve this question







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I have a MSI GS43VR 6RE laptop. It's pretty powerful and I have 2 SSDs (512 GB M.2 + 1TB Sata) instead of original SSD 128GB + HDD 1TB. Startup time always took about 2-3 seconds. After one of big Windows 10 updates (not sure which one, but it probably was Spring Creators Update) startup time increased to couple of minutes (the part when I see MSI logo on black background and spinning circle loader). I ignored it for a long time because everything else was working fine and I was hoping that it will be fixed in next update(s). But still no changes so I finally decided to make clean windows install and forget about this problem. But surprisingly it didn't help. I tried to install manufacturer drivers from MSI website and I also tried to install latest drivers but it also didn't help. BIOS is latest version, tried to set default settings. I believe this is something that came with updates because I found a lot of reports from different people with same problem. Unfortunately I didn't found solution that works for me so I'm asking here.
Here I found something similar (but not same) and instruction how to create ETL report file for Windows Boot. So I did (unpacked and Zipped - which is better for you guys). Strange thing is that almost all boot time is Idle, i don't known what does it mean. Or maybe I missed something and there is a way to look deeper? And also I have ntbtlog.txt which also has strange moments, look here:



BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversdxgkrnl.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32driversCAD.sys


BOOTLOG_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
...
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED SystemRootSystem32DRIVERSNDProxy.sys


So it loads this files first time and after that it tries to load them again and again. Here is full versions of my diagnostic files:



https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArTf1Gx90XNakNQbupjd9T8-MJHANw







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  • Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    4 hours ago











  • OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    3 hours ago



















  • Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    4 hours ago











  • OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

    – HelpingHand
    4 hours ago











  • Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

    – Ivan Sadovsky
    3 hours ago

















Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

– HelpingHand
4 hours ago





Do you see the same issue without the Fortinet FortiClient software installed? Maybe you can try renaming FortiShield.sys (C:windowssystem32drivers) to FortiShield.sys.off and reboot. Does that help? There is also Fortifilter.sys (NDIS filter) and fortifw2.sys, hence if you can remove Fortinet software it might be easier.

– HelpingHand
4 hours ago













Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

– Ivan Sadovsky
4 hours ago





Just tried: removed FortiClient completely, rebooted twice and made sure that forti files removed from system32drivers folder. Unfortunately problem still exists.

– Ivan Sadovsky
4 hours ago













OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

– HelpingHand
4 hours ago





OK, my only other thought is it's related to Bluetooth somehow. bthport.sys. Can you disable bluetooth on the device? The fact a re-install of Windows didn't help might also suggest it's some interaction with the hardware.

– HelpingHand
4 hours ago













Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

– Ivan Sadovsky
3 hours ago





Unfortunately that didn't help also. Can you at least tell me how did you find that this this drivers causes problems? I just want to understand where to look because the only suspicious thing I see is "Idle" for a 70 seconds.

– Ivan Sadovsky
3 hours ago










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