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          Such a great question.



          Background



          Derivation paths are related to HD Wallets or HD Keys, a type of wallet where you have a single, human readable, seed phrase that unlocks a number of accounts / addresses / private keys across any supported network. These phrases typically look like brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard.



          The technical specification for the most commonly used HD wallets are...





          • BIP-32 - HD wallets specification


          • BIP-39 - the mnemonic phrase / word list / etc. piece of this puzzle.


          • BIP-44 - the derivation path stuff / algorithms.


          Typically you have a single private key (e.g. afdfd9c3d2095ef696594f6cedcae59e72dcd697e2a7521b1578140422a4f890) which allows you to access your funds in it's matching address (e.g. 0x06A85356DCb5b307096726FB86A78c59D38e08ee). This is a keypair.



          With HD wallets you have a single seed phrase (e.g. brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard) which, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, derives multiple keypairs. An infinite number of keypairs.



          Additionally, there is an insecure format of wallet known as a "brain wallet" where a person can use a single, human-readable phrase and, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, turns into a single keypair.



          Okay, but wtf about derivation paths?



          Brain wallets allow you to turn dogsarecool12 or brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard into a single private key which is then used to access your funds and sign your transactions.



          For simplicity's sake, lets represent this as




          seed phrase => private key




          If I were to use catsarecool10 instead of dogsarecool12 as my phrase, I would get a different keypair, different address, different account.



          HD wallets are similar, but each phrase has an infinite number of keypairs or accounts that it can access. Because, unlike brain wallets, it does more complex math. For simplicity's sake, let's represent this as




          seed phrase + XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1 => private key




          If you change any one of those pieces, the private key that you get (or derive) is is going to be different, just as it was above with catsarecool10 vs dogsarecool12. However, since all the coders follow the same rules, the pieces that get added to the seed phrase are consistent and allow users to access the same accounts across multiple products or blockchains.



          These pieces are the "derviation path"



          It's the






          • XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1




          part of it.



          The actual derivation path pieces



          Full path: m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0



          What each number represents: m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index




          m/




          Probably just a random way to start a string so that coders can easily tell if something is a derivation path, not you starting to type "mommy".




          44' (purpose)




          This is always 44'. However, if it were decided that there were a better evolution of the HD key system, you could change it to be 45' so that, again, coders could tell the difference between an old system and a new system.




          60' (coin type)




          Which blockchain are you accessing? Each blockchain has a number that represents it. Bitcoin is 0. Ethereum is 60. Aion is 425. When you create a new blockchain, you apply for an unused number. You can see all the chains and their numbers here: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md




          0' (account)




          A number that starts at 0 and increases. A layer of separation or hierarchy. (more on that below)




          0 (change)`




          Sometimes used in Ethereum, sometimes not. Was created for Bitcoin originally which doesn't really have "accounts", it has "unspent transaction outputs". Basically you never send a part of your bitcoin holdings around—you send all your bitcoin to multiple addresses. If you have 0.75 BTC but only want to send me 0.5 BTC, you would send me 0.5 BTC and then send yourself 0.25 BTC. "Yourself" could be back to the original address or to another address you have access to (for example, the next address on the "list"). This number says "send whatever I don't want to send to my friend to the 10th address on my list. Or the 0th address on the list (aka the address I am sending from).




          0' (index)




          Another variable to get different accounts, etc.



          Seperation and Hierarchy



          Some of the variables above are based on external forces, like what chain I am on. Some are chosen by the user or the wallet software, like the change variable. The account and index variables give me (or my wallet) more things to change.



          For example, let's say I want to separate my personal ETH holdings from my company's ETH holdings. I could use m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0 for the company and m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for my personal.



          But let's say I want to have different addresses for...




          • my personal savings

          • where I receive my paycheck each week

          • when I personally getting paid back by friends

          • displaying publicly on my personal github for donations

          • all my personal school expenses


          I could use m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for savings, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/1 for paychecks, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/2 for getting paid back by my friend, and so forth. I could also do the same with the company accounts. Yay!






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          Such a great question.



          Background



          Derivation paths are related to HD Wallets or HD Keys, a type of wallet where you have a single, human readable, seed phrase that unlocks a number of accounts / addresses / private keys across any supported network. These phrases typically look like brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard.



          The technical specification for the most commonly used HD wallets are...





          • BIP-32 - HD wallets specification


          • BIP-39 - the mnemonic phrase / word list / etc. piece of this puzzle.


          • BIP-44 - the derivation path stuff / algorithms.


          Typically you have a single private key (e.g. afdfd9c3d2095ef696594f6cedcae59e72dcd697e2a7521b1578140422a4f890) which allows you to access your funds in it's matching address (e.g. 0x06A85356DCb5b307096726FB86A78c59D38e08ee). This is a keypair.



          With HD wallets you have a single seed phrase (e.g. brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard) which, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, derives multiple keypairs. An infinite number of keypairs.



          Additionally, there is an insecure format of wallet known as a "brain wallet" where a person can use a single, human-readable phrase and, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, turns into a single keypair.



          Okay, but wtf about derivation paths?



          Brain wallets allow you to turn dogsarecool12 or brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard into a single private key which is then used to access your funds and sign your transactions.



          For simplicity's sake, lets represent this as




          seed phrase => private key




          If I were to use catsarecool10 instead of dogsarecool12 as my phrase, I would get a different keypair, different address, different account.



          HD wallets are similar, but each phrase has an infinite number of keypairs or accounts that it can access. Because, unlike brain wallets, it does more complex math. For simplicity's sake, let's represent this as




          seed phrase + XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1 => private key




          If you change any one of those pieces, the private key that you get (or derive) is is going to be different, just as it was above with catsarecool10 vs dogsarecool12. However, since all the coders follow the same rules, the pieces that get added to the seed phrase are consistent and allow users to access the same accounts across multiple products or blockchains.



          These pieces are the "derviation path"



          It's the






          • XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1




          part of it.



          The actual derivation path pieces



          Full path: m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0



          What each number represents: m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index




          m/




          Probably just a random way to start a string so that coders can easily tell if something is a derivation path, not you starting to type "mommy".




          44' (purpose)




          This is always 44'. However, if it were decided that there were a better evolution of the HD key system, you could change it to be 45' so that, again, coders could tell the difference between an old system and a new system.




          60' (coin type)




          Which blockchain are you accessing? Each blockchain has a number that represents it. Bitcoin is 0. Ethereum is 60. Aion is 425. When you create a new blockchain, you apply for an unused number. You can see all the chains and their numbers here: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md




          0' (account)




          A number that starts at 0 and increases. A layer of separation or hierarchy. (more on that below)




          0 (change)`




          Sometimes used in Ethereum, sometimes not. Was created for Bitcoin originally which doesn't really have "accounts", it has "unspent transaction outputs". Basically you never send a part of your bitcoin holdings around—you send all your bitcoin to multiple addresses. If you have 0.75 BTC but only want to send me 0.5 BTC, you would send me 0.5 BTC and then send yourself 0.25 BTC. "Yourself" could be back to the original address or to another address you have access to (for example, the next address on the "list"). This number says "send whatever I don't want to send to my friend to the 10th address on my list. Or the 0th address on the list (aka the address I am sending from).




          0' (index)




          Another variable to get different accounts, etc.



          Seperation and Hierarchy



          Some of the variables above are based on external forces, like what chain I am on. Some are chosen by the user or the wallet software, like the change variable. The account and index variables give me (or my wallet) more things to change.



          For example, let's say I want to separate my personal ETH holdings from my company's ETH holdings. I could use m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0 for the company and m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for my personal.



          But let's say I want to have different addresses for...




          • my personal savings

          • where I receive my paycheck each week

          • when I personally getting paid back by friends

          • displaying publicly on my personal github for donations

          • all my personal school expenses


          I could use m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for savings, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/1 for paychecks, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/2 for getting paid back by my friend, and so forth. I could also do the same with the company accounts. Yay!






          share|improve this answer
























          • What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

            – Mikko Ohtamaa
            14 hours ago
















          2














          Such a great question.



          Background



          Derivation paths are related to HD Wallets or HD Keys, a type of wallet where you have a single, human readable, seed phrase that unlocks a number of accounts / addresses / private keys across any supported network. These phrases typically look like brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard.



          The technical specification for the most commonly used HD wallets are...





          • BIP-32 - HD wallets specification


          • BIP-39 - the mnemonic phrase / word list / etc. piece of this puzzle.


          • BIP-44 - the derivation path stuff / algorithms.


          Typically you have a single private key (e.g. afdfd9c3d2095ef696594f6cedcae59e72dcd697e2a7521b1578140422a4f890) which allows you to access your funds in it's matching address (e.g. 0x06A85356DCb5b307096726FB86A78c59D38e08ee). This is a keypair.



          With HD wallets you have a single seed phrase (e.g. brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard) which, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, derives multiple keypairs. An infinite number of keypairs.



          Additionally, there is an insecure format of wallet known as a "brain wallet" where a person can use a single, human-readable phrase and, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, turns into a single keypair.



          Okay, but wtf about derivation paths?



          Brain wallets allow you to turn dogsarecool12 or brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard into a single private key which is then used to access your funds and sign your transactions.



          For simplicity's sake, lets represent this as




          seed phrase => private key




          If I were to use catsarecool10 instead of dogsarecool12 as my phrase, I would get a different keypair, different address, different account.



          HD wallets are similar, but each phrase has an infinite number of keypairs or accounts that it can access. Because, unlike brain wallets, it does more complex math. For simplicity's sake, let's represent this as




          seed phrase + XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1 => private key




          If you change any one of those pieces, the private key that you get (or derive) is is going to be different, just as it was above with catsarecool10 vs dogsarecool12. However, since all the coders follow the same rules, the pieces that get added to the seed phrase are consistent and allow users to access the same accounts across multiple products or blockchains.



          These pieces are the "derviation path"



          It's the






          • XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1




          part of it.



          The actual derivation path pieces



          Full path: m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0



          What each number represents: m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index




          m/




          Probably just a random way to start a string so that coders can easily tell if something is a derivation path, not you starting to type "mommy".




          44' (purpose)




          This is always 44'. However, if it were decided that there were a better evolution of the HD key system, you could change it to be 45' so that, again, coders could tell the difference between an old system and a new system.




          60' (coin type)




          Which blockchain are you accessing? Each blockchain has a number that represents it. Bitcoin is 0. Ethereum is 60. Aion is 425. When you create a new blockchain, you apply for an unused number. You can see all the chains and their numbers here: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md




          0' (account)




          A number that starts at 0 and increases. A layer of separation or hierarchy. (more on that below)




          0 (change)`




          Sometimes used in Ethereum, sometimes not. Was created for Bitcoin originally which doesn't really have "accounts", it has "unspent transaction outputs". Basically you never send a part of your bitcoin holdings around—you send all your bitcoin to multiple addresses. If you have 0.75 BTC but only want to send me 0.5 BTC, you would send me 0.5 BTC and then send yourself 0.25 BTC. "Yourself" could be back to the original address or to another address you have access to (for example, the next address on the "list"). This number says "send whatever I don't want to send to my friend to the 10th address on my list. Or the 0th address on the list (aka the address I am sending from).




          0' (index)




          Another variable to get different accounts, etc.



          Seperation and Hierarchy



          Some of the variables above are based on external forces, like what chain I am on. Some are chosen by the user or the wallet software, like the change variable. The account and index variables give me (or my wallet) more things to change.



          For example, let's say I want to separate my personal ETH holdings from my company's ETH holdings. I could use m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0 for the company and m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for my personal.



          But let's say I want to have different addresses for...




          • my personal savings

          • where I receive my paycheck each week

          • when I personally getting paid back by friends

          • displaying publicly on my personal github for donations

          • all my personal school expenses


          I could use m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for savings, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/1 for paychecks, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/2 for getting paid back by my friend, and so forth. I could also do the same with the company accounts. Yay!






          share|improve this answer
























          • What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

            – Mikko Ohtamaa
            14 hours ago














          2












          2








          2







          Such a great question.



          Background



          Derivation paths are related to HD Wallets or HD Keys, a type of wallet where you have a single, human readable, seed phrase that unlocks a number of accounts / addresses / private keys across any supported network. These phrases typically look like brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard.



          The technical specification for the most commonly used HD wallets are...





          • BIP-32 - HD wallets specification


          • BIP-39 - the mnemonic phrase / word list / etc. piece of this puzzle.


          • BIP-44 - the derivation path stuff / algorithms.


          Typically you have a single private key (e.g. afdfd9c3d2095ef696594f6cedcae59e72dcd697e2a7521b1578140422a4f890) which allows you to access your funds in it's matching address (e.g. 0x06A85356DCb5b307096726FB86A78c59D38e08ee). This is a keypair.



          With HD wallets you have a single seed phrase (e.g. brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard) which, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, derives multiple keypairs. An infinite number of keypairs.



          Additionally, there is an insecure format of wallet known as a "brain wallet" where a person can use a single, human-readable phrase and, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, turns into a single keypair.



          Okay, but wtf about derivation paths?



          Brain wallets allow you to turn dogsarecool12 or brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard into a single private key which is then used to access your funds and sign your transactions.



          For simplicity's sake, lets represent this as




          seed phrase => private key




          If I were to use catsarecool10 instead of dogsarecool12 as my phrase, I would get a different keypair, different address, different account.



          HD wallets are similar, but each phrase has an infinite number of keypairs or accounts that it can access. Because, unlike brain wallets, it does more complex math. For simplicity's sake, let's represent this as




          seed phrase + XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1 => private key




          If you change any one of those pieces, the private key that you get (or derive) is is going to be different, just as it was above with catsarecool10 vs dogsarecool12. However, since all the coders follow the same rules, the pieces that get added to the seed phrase are consistent and allow users to access the same accounts across multiple products or blockchains.



          These pieces are the "derviation path"



          It's the






          • XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1




          part of it.



          The actual derivation path pieces



          Full path: m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0



          What each number represents: m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index




          m/




          Probably just a random way to start a string so that coders can easily tell if something is a derivation path, not you starting to type "mommy".




          44' (purpose)




          This is always 44'. However, if it were decided that there were a better evolution of the HD key system, you could change it to be 45' so that, again, coders could tell the difference between an old system and a new system.




          60' (coin type)




          Which blockchain are you accessing? Each blockchain has a number that represents it. Bitcoin is 0. Ethereum is 60. Aion is 425. When you create a new blockchain, you apply for an unused number. You can see all the chains and their numbers here: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md




          0' (account)




          A number that starts at 0 and increases. A layer of separation or hierarchy. (more on that below)




          0 (change)`




          Sometimes used in Ethereum, sometimes not. Was created for Bitcoin originally which doesn't really have "accounts", it has "unspent transaction outputs". Basically you never send a part of your bitcoin holdings around—you send all your bitcoin to multiple addresses. If you have 0.75 BTC but only want to send me 0.5 BTC, you would send me 0.5 BTC and then send yourself 0.25 BTC. "Yourself" could be back to the original address or to another address you have access to (for example, the next address on the "list"). This number says "send whatever I don't want to send to my friend to the 10th address on my list. Or the 0th address on the list (aka the address I am sending from).




          0' (index)




          Another variable to get different accounts, etc.



          Seperation and Hierarchy



          Some of the variables above are based on external forces, like what chain I am on. Some are chosen by the user or the wallet software, like the change variable. The account and index variables give me (or my wallet) more things to change.



          For example, let's say I want to separate my personal ETH holdings from my company's ETH holdings. I could use m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0 for the company and m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for my personal.



          But let's say I want to have different addresses for...




          • my personal savings

          • where I receive my paycheck each week

          • when I personally getting paid back by friends

          • displaying publicly on my personal github for donations

          • all my personal school expenses


          I could use m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for savings, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/1 for paychecks, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/2 for getting paid back by my friend, and so forth. I could also do the same with the company accounts. Yay!






          share|improve this answer













          Such a great question.



          Background



          Derivation paths are related to HD Wallets or HD Keys, a type of wallet where you have a single, human readable, seed phrase that unlocks a number of accounts / addresses / private keys across any supported network. These phrases typically look like brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard.



          The technical specification for the most commonly used HD wallets are...





          • BIP-32 - HD wallets specification


          • BIP-39 - the mnemonic phrase / word list / etc. piece of this puzzle.


          • BIP-44 - the derivation path stuff / algorithms.


          Typically you have a single private key (e.g. afdfd9c3d2095ef696594f6cedcae59e72dcd697e2a7521b1578140422a4f890) which allows you to access your funds in it's matching address (e.g. 0x06A85356DCb5b307096726FB86A78c59D38e08ee). This is a keypair.



          With HD wallets you have a single seed phrase (e.g. brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard) which, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, derives multiple keypairs. An infinite number of keypairs.



          Additionally, there is an insecure format of wallet known as a "brain wallet" where a person can use a single, human-readable phrase and, via math and algorithms and code and stuff, turns into a single keypair.



          Okay, but wtf about derivation paths?



          Brain wallets allow you to turn dogsarecool12 or brain surround have swap horror body response double fire dumb bring hazard into a single private key which is then used to access your funds and sign your transactions.



          For simplicity's sake, lets represent this as




          seed phrase => private key




          If I were to use catsarecool10 instead of dogsarecool12 as my phrase, I would get a different keypair, different address, different account.



          HD wallets are similar, but each phrase has an infinite number of keypairs or accounts that it can access. Because, unlike brain wallets, it does more complex math. For simplicity's sake, let's represent this as




          seed phrase + XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1 => private key




          If you change any one of those pieces, the private key that you get (or derive) is is going to be different, just as it was above with catsarecool10 vs dogsarecool12. However, since all the coders follow the same rules, the pieces that get added to the seed phrase are consistent and allow users to access the same accounts across multiple products or blockchains.



          These pieces are the "derviation path"



          It's the






          • XYZ + 🍎 + ABC + & + 1




          part of it.



          The actual derivation path pieces



          Full path: m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0



          What each number represents: m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index




          m/




          Probably just a random way to start a string so that coders can easily tell if something is a derivation path, not you starting to type "mommy".




          44' (purpose)




          This is always 44'. However, if it were decided that there were a better evolution of the HD key system, you could change it to be 45' so that, again, coders could tell the difference between an old system and a new system.




          60' (coin type)




          Which blockchain are you accessing? Each blockchain has a number that represents it. Bitcoin is 0. Ethereum is 60. Aion is 425. When you create a new blockchain, you apply for an unused number. You can see all the chains and their numbers here: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md




          0' (account)




          A number that starts at 0 and increases. A layer of separation or hierarchy. (more on that below)




          0 (change)`




          Sometimes used in Ethereum, sometimes not. Was created for Bitcoin originally which doesn't really have "accounts", it has "unspent transaction outputs". Basically you never send a part of your bitcoin holdings around—you send all your bitcoin to multiple addresses. If you have 0.75 BTC but only want to send me 0.5 BTC, you would send me 0.5 BTC and then send yourself 0.25 BTC. "Yourself" could be back to the original address or to another address you have access to (for example, the next address on the "list"). This number says "send whatever I don't want to send to my friend to the 10th address on my list. Or the 0th address on the list (aka the address I am sending from).




          0' (index)




          Another variable to get different accounts, etc.



          Seperation and Hierarchy



          Some of the variables above are based on external forces, like what chain I am on. Some are chosen by the user or the wallet software, like the change variable. The account and index variables give me (or my wallet) more things to change.



          For example, let's say I want to separate my personal ETH holdings from my company's ETH holdings. I could use m/44'/60'/0'/0'/0 for the company and m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for my personal.



          But let's say I want to have different addresses for...




          • my personal savings

          • where I receive my paycheck each week

          • when I personally getting paid back by friends

          • displaying publicly on my personal github for donations

          • all my personal school expenses


          I could use m/44'/60'/1'/0'/0 for savings, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/1 for paychecks, m/44'/60'/1'/0'/2 for getting paid back by my friend, and so forth. I could also do the same with the company accounts. Yay!







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          • What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

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          • What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

            – Mikko Ohtamaa
            14 hours ago

















          What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

          – Mikko Ohtamaa
          14 hours ago





          What's with the usage of ' character in derivation paths?

          – Mikko Ohtamaa
          14 hours ago










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