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What should I focus on for a custom PC NOT for gaming? [on hold]
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I'm wanting to build my own powerful PC, but I'm not interested in PC gaming (I prefer my Xbox, thank you). My question is, what components are less or more important for general usage (coding, office, web browsing) as apposed to high graphics gaming? Do they differ at all?
To clarify, I'm not asking for specific hardware to buy, but what types of hardware are important.
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I'm wanting to build my own powerful PC, but I'm not interested in PC gaming (I prefer my Xbox, thank you). My question is, what components are less or more important for general usage (coding, office, web browsing) as apposed to high graphics gaming? Do they differ at all?
To clarify, I'm not asking for specific hardware to buy, but what types of hardware are important.
computer-building priority
put on hold as off-topic by music2myear, Mark Deven, DavidPostill♦ yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking for hardware shopping recommendations are off-topic because they are often relevant only to the question author at the time the question was asked and tend to become obsolete quickly. Instead of asking what to buy, try asking how to find out what suits your needs." – music2myear, DavidPostill
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
3
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
1
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
2
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday
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I'm wanting to build my own powerful PC, but I'm not interested in PC gaming (I prefer my Xbox, thank you). My question is, what components are less or more important for general usage (coding, office, web browsing) as apposed to high graphics gaming? Do they differ at all?
To clarify, I'm not asking for specific hardware to buy, but what types of hardware are important.
computer-building priority
I'm wanting to build my own powerful PC, but I'm not interested in PC gaming (I prefer my Xbox, thank you). My question is, what components are less or more important for general usage (coding, office, web browsing) as apposed to high graphics gaming? Do they differ at all?
To clarify, I'm not asking for specific hardware to buy, but what types of hardware are important.
computer-building priority
computer-building priority
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put on hold as off-topic by music2myear, Mark Deven, DavidPostill♦ yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking for hardware shopping recommendations are off-topic because they are often relevant only to the question author at the time the question was asked and tend to become obsolete quickly. Instead of asking what to buy, try asking how to find out what suits your needs." – music2myear, DavidPostill
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
put on hold as off-topic by music2myear, Mark Deven, DavidPostill♦ yesterday
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking for hardware shopping recommendations are off-topic because they are often relevant only to the question author at the time the question was asked and tend to become obsolete quickly. Instead of asking what to buy, try asking how to find out what suits your needs." – music2myear, DavidPostill
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
3
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
1
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
2
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday
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Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
3
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
1
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
2
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday
Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
3
3
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
1
1
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
2
2
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday
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You will do what people describe as light-work, which describes web browsing/emails/general usage. I can think of only one intensive operation: code compilation, which usually only takes long with large projects.
You want, in general, a fast CPU (Multi-core is best, but don't go crazy - quad core is more than enough). This defines how fast your computer can run. Then, you want a good amount of RAM - this can get expensive, but from experience I would say that 8 to 16 gigabytes would sort you just fine for now and 5+ years (RAM defines how many programs can run simultaneously, eg chrome tabs, music players, etc).
Storage isn't of the essence, and something like 128GB (or even 64GB potentially) would do you fine. I recommend an SSD - it would seriously speed up your computer in terms of loading.
You don't want to splash on a graphics card at all - you won't be needing it! You can get by using integrated graphics from the CPU, or if you need one, any cheap GPU should do you fine, provided it can support resolutions of upto 1080p or so. A hard drive may be useful for long term storage, but thats beyond the scope of the answer.
The question you've posted is fairly generic in nature and I would recommend you do some research yourself on certain components before asking a question - specifics are better.
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
add a comment |
Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are very important. Those are the things you are going to be interacting with the most. Second most important is a large, fast SSD for main storage and a large hard drive for secondary storage. Third most important is some way to back the machine up so you don't lose data.
add a comment |
For office use, I would select this way:
cpu
hdd-type and size
ram-type and size up to 16GB
amount and type of ports like usb or hdmi
graphic
Try it with 16GB and 32GB and form your own opinion.
You just need that for things like gaming, cad or video-working. Better spend the money on a fast cpu for the future and pretty fast you'll find out that your hdd-space reaches the limit. What do you do then? Move a lot of files to a second one and edit all the pathes or setup a new os?
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32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
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You will do what people describe as light-work, which describes web browsing/emails/general usage. I can think of only one intensive operation: code compilation, which usually only takes long with large projects.
You want, in general, a fast CPU (Multi-core is best, but don't go crazy - quad core is more than enough). This defines how fast your computer can run. Then, you want a good amount of RAM - this can get expensive, but from experience I would say that 8 to 16 gigabytes would sort you just fine for now and 5+ years (RAM defines how many programs can run simultaneously, eg chrome tabs, music players, etc).
Storage isn't of the essence, and something like 128GB (or even 64GB potentially) would do you fine. I recommend an SSD - it would seriously speed up your computer in terms of loading.
You don't want to splash on a graphics card at all - you won't be needing it! You can get by using integrated graphics from the CPU, or if you need one, any cheap GPU should do you fine, provided it can support resolutions of upto 1080p or so. A hard drive may be useful for long term storage, but thats beyond the scope of the answer.
The question you've posted is fairly generic in nature and I would recommend you do some research yourself on certain components before asking a question - specifics are better.
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
add a comment |
You will do what people describe as light-work, which describes web browsing/emails/general usage. I can think of only one intensive operation: code compilation, which usually only takes long with large projects.
You want, in general, a fast CPU (Multi-core is best, but don't go crazy - quad core is more than enough). This defines how fast your computer can run. Then, you want a good amount of RAM - this can get expensive, but from experience I would say that 8 to 16 gigabytes would sort you just fine for now and 5+ years (RAM defines how many programs can run simultaneously, eg chrome tabs, music players, etc).
Storage isn't of the essence, and something like 128GB (or even 64GB potentially) would do you fine. I recommend an SSD - it would seriously speed up your computer in terms of loading.
You don't want to splash on a graphics card at all - you won't be needing it! You can get by using integrated graphics from the CPU, or if you need one, any cheap GPU should do you fine, provided it can support resolutions of upto 1080p or so. A hard drive may be useful for long term storage, but thats beyond the scope of the answer.
The question you've posted is fairly generic in nature and I would recommend you do some research yourself on certain components before asking a question - specifics are better.
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
add a comment |
You will do what people describe as light-work, which describes web browsing/emails/general usage. I can think of only one intensive operation: code compilation, which usually only takes long with large projects.
You want, in general, a fast CPU (Multi-core is best, but don't go crazy - quad core is more than enough). This defines how fast your computer can run. Then, you want a good amount of RAM - this can get expensive, but from experience I would say that 8 to 16 gigabytes would sort you just fine for now and 5+ years (RAM defines how many programs can run simultaneously, eg chrome tabs, music players, etc).
Storage isn't of the essence, and something like 128GB (or even 64GB potentially) would do you fine. I recommend an SSD - it would seriously speed up your computer in terms of loading.
You don't want to splash on a graphics card at all - you won't be needing it! You can get by using integrated graphics from the CPU, or if you need one, any cheap GPU should do you fine, provided it can support resolutions of upto 1080p or so. A hard drive may be useful for long term storage, but thats beyond the scope of the answer.
The question you've posted is fairly generic in nature and I would recommend you do some research yourself on certain components before asking a question - specifics are better.
You will do what people describe as light-work, which describes web browsing/emails/general usage. I can think of only one intensive operation: code compilation, which usually only takes long with large projects.
You want, in general, a fast CPU (Multi-core is best, but don't go crazy - quad core is more than enough). This defines how fast your computer can run. Then, you want a good amount of RAM - this can get expensive, but from experience I would say that 8 to 16 gigabytes would sort you just fine for now and 5+ years (RAM defines how many programs can run simultaneously, eg chrome tabs, music players, etc).
Storage isn't of the essence, and something like 128GB (or even 64GB potentially) would do you fine. I recommend an SSD - it would seriously speed up your computer in terms of loading.
You don't want to splash on a graphics card at all - you won't be needing it! You can get by using integrated graphics from the CPU, or if you need one, any cheap GPU should do you fine, provided it can support resolutions of upto 1080p or so. A hard drive may be useful for long term storage, but thats beyond the scope of the answer.
The question you've posted is fairly generic in nature and I would recommend you do some research yourself on certain components before asking a question - specifics are better.
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64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
add a comment |
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
64bG will barely cover Windows 10 :-(
– Mawg
22 hours ago
1
1
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
Yes, I do agree with you. However, that's Windows. Linux is a viable alternative for OPs use case, but if they wish to use Windows then yes, 128gb and above is highly recommended.
– QuickishFM
22 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
And cheap enough these days ;-)
– Mawg
21 hours ago
add a comment |
Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are very important. Those are the things you are going to be interacting with the most. Second most important is a large, fast SSD for main storage and a large hard drive for secondary storage. Third most important is some way to back the machine up so you don't lose data.
add a comment |
Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are very important. Those are the things you are going to be interacting with the most. Second most important is a large, fast SSD for main storage and a large hard drive for secondary storage. Third most important is some way to back the machine up so you don't lose data.
add a comment |
Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are very important. Those are the things you are going to be interacting with the most. Second most important is a large, fast SSD for main storage and a large hard drive for secondary storage. Third most important is some way to back the machine up so you don't lose data.
Monitor, mouse, and keyboard are very important. Those are the things you are going to be interacting with the most. Second most important is a large, fast SSD for main storage and a large hard drive for secondary storage. Third most important is some way to back the machine up so you don't lose data.
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For office use, I would select this way:
cpu
hdd-type and size
ram-type and size up to 16GB
amount and type of ports like usb or hdmi
graphic
Try it with 16GB and 32GB and form your own opinion.
You just need that for things like gaming, cad or video-working. Better spend the money on a fast cpu for the future and pretty fast you'll find out that your hdd-space reaches the limit. What do you do then? Move a lot of files to a second one and edit all the pathes or setup a new os?
New contributor
32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
add a comment |
For office use, I would select this way:
cpu
hdd-type and size
ram-type and size up to 16GB
amount and type of ports like usb or hdmi
graphic
Try it with 16GB and 32GB and form your own opinion.
You just need that for things like gaming, cad or video-working. Better spend the money on a fast cpu for the future and pretty fast you'll find out that your hdd-space reaches the limit. What do you do then? Move a lot of files to a second one and edit all the pathes or setup a new os?
New contributor
32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
add a comment |
For office use, I would select this way:
cpu
hdd-type and size
ram-type and size up to 16GB
amount and type of ports like usb or hdmi
graphic
Try it with 16GB and 32GB and form your own opinion.
You just need that for things like gaming, cad or video-working. Better spend the money on a fast cpu for the future and pretty fast you'll find out that your hdd-space reaches the limit. What do you do then? Move a lot of files to a second one and edit all the pathes or setup a new os?
New contributor
For office use, I would select this way:
cpu
hdd-type and size
ram-type and size up to 16GB
amount and type of ports like usb or hdmi
graphic
Try it with 16GB and 32GB and form your own opinion.
You just need that for things like gaming, cad or video-working. Better spend the money on a fast cpu for the future and pretty fast you'll find out that your hdd-space reaches the limit. What do you do then? Move a lot of files to a second one and edit all the pathes or setup a new os?
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32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
add a comment |
32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
32gB RAM seems like far to much for him. As a "power user", I rarely use all of my 32gB; in fact, it doesn't often go above 16gB
– Mawg
22 hours ago
add a comment |
Hardware recommendation questions are off-topic here on SuperUser. Please read the Help section to learn more about the sorts of questions that should and should not be asked here: superuser.com/help
– music2myear
yesterday
If you are not gaming and only doing soft video stuff then you can do without a good graphics card. This question is way to broad and is going to be full opiniated answers. Anyway I'll go for anything Workstation related.
– dmb
yesterday
3
You want a forum where open discussion is the purpose. There are also TONS!!!!!!!!! of guides online for building mid-range general-purpose computers. SuperUser is about questions that have a specific correct answer. There is no "correct" answer for a question like this because your needs are going to be different from others, and opinion and experience will play heavily into the solutions suggested and the ones you choose. Forums are about open discussion rather than specific answers, and so are better suited to your needs.
– music2myear
yesterday
1
@dmb A toaster can surf the web, but not the way a power user of a desktop surfs the web. The way I surf, it's not unusual for my browser to be using 4GB of RAM. And when I surf untrusted sites, I use a VM that itself uses about 6GB of RAM. And that's just the surfing.
– David Schwartz
yesterday
2
Maybe of interest: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange. It is a Beta site, so it may not be promoted to a full Stack Exchange site. (In which case it will die and be archived/read-only).
– jww
yesterday