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Let K be the Klein bottle obtained by the quotient of $[0, 1] × [0; 1]$
by the equivalence relation $(x, 0) ∼ (1 − x, 1)$ and $(0, y) ∼ (1, y)$.
Is there a non trivial covering of $K$ by $K$?
The universal cover of $K$ is $Bbb R^2$ and I know the torus can also be a cover of $K$, but I don't know where to start.
Thank you for any hints and help.
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Let K be the Klein bottle obtained by the quotient of $[0, 1] × [0; 1]$
by the equivalence relation $(x, 0) ∼ (1 − x, 1)$ and $(0, y) ∼ (1, y)$.
Is there a non trivial covering of $K$ by $K$?
The universal cover of $K$ is $Bbb R^2$ and I know the torus can also be a cover of $K$, but I don't know where to start.
Thank you for any hints and help.
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Let K be the Klein bottle obtained by the quotient of $[0, 1] × [0; 1]$
by the equivalence relation $(x, 0) ∼ (1 − x, 1)$ and $(0, y) ∼ (1, y)$.
Is there a non trivial covering of $K$ by $K$?
The universal cover of $K$ is $Bbb R^2$ and I know the torus can also be a cover of $K$, but I don't know where to start.
Thank you for any hints and help.
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Let K be the Klein bottle obtained by the quotient of $[0, 1] × [0; 1]$
by the equivalence relation $(x, 0) ∼ (1 − x, 1)$ and $(0, y) ∼ (1, y)$.
Is there a non trivial covering of $K$ by $K$?
The universal cover of $K$ is $Bbb R^2$ and I know the torus can also be a cover of $K$, but I don't know where to start.
Thank you for any hints and help.
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One way you can envision the two-fold cover of $K$ by the torus by placing two copies of the given square next to each other such that the $(x,0)$ side of one is touching the $(x,1)$ side of the other. To check that this translates to a well-defined map $Tto K$ is fairly straightforward.
This can be extended to a 3-fold cover of $K$ by itself if you place three such squares next to each other (or more generally for any odd $n$).
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The Klein bottle is the quotient of $mathbb{R}^2$ by the group $G$ generated by $u(x,y)=(x,y+1)$ and $v(x,y)=(x+1,-y)$Consider $f(x,y)=(x,2y)$ $fcirc u(x,y)=f(x,y+1)=(x,2y+2)=u^2circ f(x,y)$.
$fcirc v(x,y)=f(x+1,-y)=(x+1,-2y)=vcirc f$. This implies that $f$ induces a continuous map of $mathbb{R}^2/G$ this map is a covering of order $2$.
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You can get a lot of examples by understanding $pi_1(K)$ and its action on $K$'s universal cover. Recall that every connected cover $Cto K$ is of the form $tilde{K}/G$ for a subgroup $Gsubset pi_1(K)$ and the group of deck transformations of $C$ is $N(G)/G$ (where $N(G)$ is the normalizer of $G$ in $pi_1(K)$).
Using van Kampen we can compute
$$pi_1(K) cong langle a, b | bab^{-1} = a^{-1} rangle $$
$langle a rangle$ is a normal subgroup and $pi_1(K)$ is the internal semi-direct product of $langle a rangle$ and $langle b rangle$, so any element $g$ can be written uniquely as $a^kb^j$ for some $k, jin mathbb{Z}$. (In fact if we express $K$ as an $S^1$ bundle over $S^1$ then $langle a rangle$ is the image of $pi_1(F)$ for any fibre $F$.)
Now $mathbb{R}^2$ can be seen as the universal cover via the action of $pi_1(K)$ given by
$$acdot(x, y) = varphi_a(x,y)= (x, y+1)text{ and } bcdot(x, y) = varphi_b (x, y) = (x + 1, - y)$$
You can check that the one relation $varphi_bvarphi_avarphi_b^{-1} = varphi_a^{-1}$ is satisfied. (We could alternatively have computed $pi_1(K)$ by computing deck transformations first.)
Now we can try taking quotients by subgroups with finite index.
Try 1: The subgroup $A_n = langle a^n, b rangle$ with index $n$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $k$. Considering the conjugations
$$ a(a^kb^j)a^{-1} = a^{k+2} b^jtext{ and } b(a^kb^j)b^{-1} = a^{-k}b^j $$
it follows that $A_n$ is normal iff $n=2$. A fundamental domain of the action is a vertical strip of $n$ boxes, say $[0,1]times [0,n]$; for $x in [0, 1] $ and $y in [0,n]$ we have the identifications $$(x, 0) sim a^ncdot (x, 0) = (x, n)text{ and }(0, y)sim bcdot (0, y) = (1, -y) sim (1, n-y)$$ i.e. $mathbb{R}^2/A_ncong K$ for every $n$. It seems that $N(A_n)$ is $A_n$ when $n$ is odd and $A_{n/2}$ when $n$ is even, so in particular the covering has trivial automorphism group when $n$ is odd.
Try 2: The subgroups $B_n = langle a, b^n rangle$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $j$, and this subgroup is normal for all $n$. Now the fundamental domain is a horizontal strip of $n$ boxes where the top and bottom are identified with the same orientation, but the way the sides are identified depends on if $n$ is even or odd. In fact the quotient is the torus if $n$ is even and $K$ when $n$ is odd. This produces the coverings given by Rolf Hoyer's answer.
Assuming I'm right about the covers I got from the $A_n$'s, I guess you could say that the $A_n$'s produce covers in the fibre direction and the $B_n$'s produce covers in the base direction. I don't know what the conjugacy classes of subgroups of $pi_1(K)$ with finite index are so there might other interesting examples. Something like $langle a^n, b^m rangle$ will probably produce some combination of the two types of covers given above. In any case, this argument produces coverings $Kto K$ with any number of sheets, and regular coverings with odd numbers of sheets. I wouldn't be surprised if regular self-coverings with an even number of sheets could be ruled out somehow.
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One way you can envision the two-fold cover of $K$ by the torus by placing two copies of the given square next to each other such that the $(x,0)$ side of one is touching the $(x,1)$ side of the other. To check that this translates to a well-defined map $Tto K$ is fairly straightforward.
This can be extended to a 3-fold cover of $K$ by itself if you place three such squares next to each other (or more generally for any odd $n$).
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One way you can envision the two-fold cover of $K$ by the torus by placing two copies of the given square next to each other such that the $(x,0)$ side of one is touching the $(x,1)$ side of the other. To check that this translates to a well-defined map $Tto K$ is fairly straightforward.
This can be extended to a 3-fold cover of $K$ by itself if you place three such squares next to each other (or more generally for any odd $n$).
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One way you can envision the two-fold cover of $K$ by the torus by placing two copies of the given square next to each other such that the $(x,0)$ side of one is touching the $(x,1)$ side of the other. To check that this translates to a well-defined map $Tto K$ is fairly straightforward.
This can be extended to a 3-fold cover of $K$ by itself if you place three such squares next to each other (or more generally for any odd $n$).
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One way you can envision the two-fold cover of $K$ by the torus by placing two copies of the given square next to each other such that the $(x,0)$ side of one is touching the $(x,1)$ side of the other. To check that this translates to a well-defined map $Tto K$ is fairly straightforward.
This can be extended to a 3-fold cover of $K$ by itself if you place three such squares next to each other (or more generally for any odd $n$).
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The Klein bottle is the quotient of $mathbb{R}^2$ by the group $G$ generated by $u(x,y)=(x,y+1)$ and $v(x,y)=(x+1,-y)$Consider $f(x,y)=(x,2y)$ $fcirc u(x,y)=f(x,y+1)=(x,2y+2)=u^2circ f(x,y)$.
$fcirc v(x,y)=f(x+1,-y)=(x+1,-2y)=vcirc f$. This implies that $f$ induces a continuous map of $mathbb{R}^2/G$ this map is a covering of order $2$.
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The Klein bottle is the quotient of $mathbb{R}^2$ by the group $G$ generated by $u(x,y)=(x,y+1)$ and $v(x,y)=(x+1,-y)$Consider $f(x,y)=(x,2y)$ $fcirc u(x,y)=f(x,y+1)=(x,2y+2)=u^2circ f(x,y)$.
$fcirc v(x,y)=f(x+1,-y)=(x+1,-2y)=vcirc f$. This implies that $f$ induces a continuous map of $mathbb{R}^2/G$ this map is a covering of order $2$.
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The Klein bottle is the quotient of $mathbb{R}^2$ by the group $G$ generated by $u(x,y)=(x,y+1)$ and $v(x,y)=(x+1,-y)$Consider $f(x,y)=(x,2y)$ $fcirc u(x,y)=f(x,y+1)=(x,2y+2)=u^2circ f(x,y)$.
$fcirc v(x,y)=f(x+1,-y)=(x+1,-2y)=vcirc f$. This implies that $f$ induces a continuous map of $mathbb{R}^2/G$ this map is a covering of order $2$.
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The Klein bottle is the quotient of $mathbb{R}^2$ by the group $G$ generated by $u(x,y)=(x,y+1)$ and $v(x,y)=(x+1,-y)$Consider $f(x,y)=(x,2y)$ $fcirc u(x,y)=f(x,y+1)=(x,2y+2)=u^2circ f(x,y)$.
$fcirc v(x,y)=f(x+1,-y)=(x+1,-2y)=vcirc f$. This implies that $f$ induces a continuous map of $mathbb{R}^2/G$ this map is a covering of order $2$.
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You can get a lot of examples by understanding $pi_1(K)$ and its action on $K$'s universal cover. Recall that every connected cover $Cto K$ is of the form $tilde{K}/G$ for a subgroup $Gsubset pi_1(K)$ and the group of deck transformations of $C$ is $N(G)/G$ (where $N(G)$ is the normalizer of $G$ in $pi_1(K)$).
Using van Kampen we can compute
$$pi_1(K) cong langle a, b | bab^{-1} = a^{-1} rangle $$
$langle a rangle$ is a normal subgroup and $pi_1(K)$ is the internal semi-direct product of $langle a rangle$ and $langle b rangle$, so any element $g$ can be written uniquely as $a^kb^j$ for some $k, jin mathbb{Z}$. (In fact if we express $K$ as an $S^1$ bundle over $S^1$ then $langle a rangle$ is the image of $pi_1(F)$ for any fibre $F$.)
Now $mathbb{R}^2$ can be seen as the universal cover via the action of $pi_1(K)$ given by
$$acdot(x, y) = varphi_a(x,y)= (x, y+1)text{ and } bcdot(x, y) = varphi_b (x, y) = (x + 1, - y)$$
You can check that the one relation $varphi_bvarphi_avarphi_b^{-1} = varphi_a^{-1}$ is satisfied. (We could alternatively have computed $pi_1(K)$ by computing deck transformations first.)
Now we can try taking quotients by subgroups with finite index.
Try 1: The subgroup $A_n = langle a^n, b rangle$ with index $n$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $k$. Considering the conjugations
$$ a(a^kb^j)a^{-1} = a^{k+2} b^jtext{ and } b(a^kb^j)b^{-1} = a^{-k}b^j $$
it follows that $A_n$ is normal iff $n=2$. A fundamental domain of the action is a vertical strip of $n$ boxes, say $[0,1]times [0,n]$; for $x in [0, 1] $ and $y in [0,n]$ we have the identifications $$(x, 0) sim a^ncdot (x, 0) = (x, n)text{ and }(0, y)sim bcdot (0, y) = (1, -y) sim (1, n-y)$$ i.e. $mathbb{R}^2/A_ncong K$ for every $n$. It seems that $N(A_n)$ is $A_n$ when $n$ is odd and $A_{n/2}$ when $n$ is even, so in particular the covering has trivial automorphism group when $n$ is odd.
Try 2: The subgroups $B_n = langle a, b^n rangle$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $j$, and this subgroup is normal for all $n$. Now the fundamental domain is a horizontal strip of $n$ boxes where the top and bottom are identified with the same orientation, but the way the sides are identified depends on if $n$ is even or odd. In fact the quotient is the torus if $n$ is even and $K$ when $n$ is odd. This produces the coverings given by Rolf Hoyer's answer.
Assuming I'm right about the covers I got from the $A_n$'s, I guess you could say that the $A_n$'s produce covers in the fibre direction and the $B_n$'s produce covers in the base direction. I don't know what the conjugacy classes of subgroups of $pi_1(K)$ with finite index are so there might other interesting examples. Something like $langle a^n, b^m rangle$ will probably produce some combination of the two types of covers given above. In any case, this argument produces coverings $Kto K$ with any number of sheets, and regular coverings with odd numbers of sheets. I wouldn't be surprised if regular self-coverings with an even number of sheets could be ruled out somehow.
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You can get a lot of examples by understanding $pi_1(K)$ and its action on $K$'s universal cover. Recall that every connected cover $Cto K$ is of the form $tilde{K}/G$ for a subgroup $Gsubset pi_1(K)$ and the group of deck transformations of $C$ is $N(G)/G$ (where $N(G)$ is the normalizer of $G$ in $pi_1(K)$).
Using van Kampen we can compute
$$pi_1(K) cong langle a, b | bab^{-1} = a^{-1} rangle $$
$langle a rangle$ is a normal subgroup and $pi_1(K)$ is the internal semi-direct product of $langle a rangle$ and $langle b rangle$, so any element $g$ can be written uniquely as $a^kb^j$ for some $k, jin mathbb{Z}$. (In fact if we express $K$ as an $S^1$ bundle over $S^1$ then $langle a rangle$ is the image of $pi_1(F)$ for any fibre $F$.)
Now $mathbb{R}^2$ can be seen as the universal cover via the action of $pi_1(K)$ given by
$$acdot(x, y) = varphi_a(x,y)= (x, y+1)text{ and } bcdot(x, y) = varphi_b (x, y) = (x + 1, - y)$$
You can check that the one relation $varphi_bvarphi_avarphi_b^{-1} = varphi_a^{-1}$ is satisfied. (We could alternatively have computed $pi_1(K)$ by computing deck transformations first.)
Now we can try taking quotients by subgroups with finite index.
Try 1: The subgroup $A_n = langle a^n, b rangle$ with index $n$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $k$. Considering the conjugations
$$ a(a^kb^j)a^{-1} = a^{k+2} b^jtext{ and } b(a^kb^j)b^{-1} = a^{-k}b^j $$
it follows that $A_n$ is normal iff $n=2$. A fundamental domain of the action is a vertical strip of $n$ boxes, say $[0,1]times [0,n]$; for $x in [0, 1] $ and $y in [0,n]$ we have the identifications $$(x, 0) sim a^ncdot (x, 0) = (x, n)text{ and }(0, y)sim bcdot (0, y) = (1, -y) sim (1, n-y)$$ i.e. $mathbb{R}^2/A_ncong K$ for every $n$. It seems that $N(A_n)$ is $A_n$ when $n$ is odd and $A_{n/2}$ when $n$ is even, so in particular the covering has trivial automorphism group when $n$ is odd.
Try 2: The subgroups $B_n = langle a, b^n rangle$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $j$, and this subgroup is normal for all $n$. Now the fundamental domain is a horizontal strip of $n$ boxes where the top and bottom are identified with the same orientation, but the way the sides are identified depends on if $n$ is even or odd. In fact the quotient is the torus if $n$ is even and $K$ when $n$ is odd. This produces the coverings given by Rolf Hoyer's answer.
Assuming I'm right about the covers I got from the $A_n$'s, I guess you could say that the $A_n$'s produce covers in the fibre direction and the $B_n$'s produce covers in the base direction. I don't know what the conjugacy classes of subgroups of $pi_1(K)$ with finite index are so there might other interesting examples. Something like $langle a^n, b^m rangle$ will probably produce some combination of the two types of covers given above. In any case, this argument produces coverings $Kto K$ with any number of sheets, and regular coverings with odd numbers of sheets. I wouldn't be surprised if regular self-coverings with an even number of sheets could be ruled out somehow.
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You can get a lot of examples by understanding $pi_1(K)$ and its action on $K$'s universal cover. Recall that every connected cover $Cto K$ is of the form $tilde{K}/G$ for a subgroup $Gsubset pi_1(K)$ and the group of deck transformations of $C$ is $N(G)/G$ (where $N(G)$ is the normalizer of $G$ in $pi_1(K)$).
Using van Kampen we can compute
$$pi_1(K) cong langle a, b | bab^{-1} = a^{-1} rangle $$
$langle a rangle$ is a normal subgroup and $pi_1(K)$ is the internal semi-direct product of $langle a rangle$ and $langle b rangle$, so any element $g$ can be written uniquely as $a^kb^j$ for some $k, jin mathbb{Z}$. (In fact if we express $K$ as an $S^1$ bundle over $S^1$ then $langle a rangle$ is the image of $pi_1(F)$ for any fibre $F$.)
Now $mathbb{R}^2$ can be seen as the universal cover via the action of $pi_1(K)$ given by
$$acdot(x, y) = varphi_a(x,y)= (x, y+1)text{ and } bcdot(x, y) = varphi_b (x, y) = (x + 1, - y)$$
You can check that the one relation $varphi_bvarphi_avarphi_b^{-1} = varphi_a^{-1}$ is satisfied. (We could alternatively have computed $pi_1(K)$ by computing deck transformations first.)
Now we can try taking quotients by subgroups with finite index.
Try 1: The subgroup $A_n = langle a^n, b rangle$ with index $n$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $k$. Considering the conjugations
$$ a(a^kb^j)a^{-1} = a^{k+2} b^jtext{ and } b(a^kb^j)b^{-1} = a^{-k}b^j $$
it follows that $A_n$ is normal iff $n=2$. A fundamental domain of the action is a vertical strip of $n$ boxes, say $[0,1]times [0,n]$; for $x in [0, 1] $ and $y in [0,n]$ we have the identifications $$(x, 0) sim a^ncdot (x, 0) = (x, n)text{ and }(0, y)sim bcdot (0, y) = (1, -y) sim (1, n-y)$$ i.e. $mathbb{R}^2/A_ncong K$ for every $n$. It seems that $N(A_n)$ is $A_n$ when $n$ is odd and $A_{n/2}$ when $n$ is even, so in particular the covering has trivial automorphism group when $n$ is odd.
Try 2: The subgroups $B_n = langle a, b^n rangle$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $j$, and this subgroup is normal for all $n$. Now the fundamental domain is a horizontal strip of $n$ boxes where the top and bottom are identified with the same orientation, but the way the sides are identified depends on if $n$ is even or odd. In fact the quotient is the torus if $n$ is even and $K$ when $n$ is odd. This produces the coverings given by Rolf Hoyer's answer.
Assuming I'm right about the covers I got from the $A_n$'s, I guess you could say that the $A_n$'s produce covers in the fibre direction and the $B_n$'s produce covers in the base direction. I don't know what the conjugacy classes of subgroups of $pi_1(K)$ with finite index are so there might other interesting examples. Something like $langle a^n, b^m rangle$ will probably produce some combination of the two types of covers given above. In any case, this argument produces coverings $Kto K$ with any number of sheets, and regular coverings with odd numbers of sheets. I wouldn't be surprised if regular self-coverings with an even number of sheets could be ruled out somehow.
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You can get a lot of examples by understanding $pi_1(K)$ and its action on $K$'s universal cover. Recall that every connected cover $Cto K$ is of the form $tilde{K}/G$ for a subgroup $Gsubset pi_1(K)$ and the group of deck transformations of $C$ is $N(G)/G$ (where $N(G)$ is the normalizer of $G$ in $pi_1(K)$).
Using van Kampen we can compute
$$pi_1(K) cong langle a, b | bab^{-1} = a^{-1} rangle $$
$langle a rangle$ is a normal subgroup and $pi_1(K)$ is the internal semi-direct product of $langle a rangle$ and $langle b rangle$, so any element $g$ can be written uniquely as $a^kb^j$ for some $k, jin mathbb{Z}$. (In fact if we express $K$ as an $S^1$ bundle over $S^1$ then $langle a rangle$ is the image of $pi_1(F)$ for any fibre $F$.)
Now $mathbb{R}^2$ can be seen as the universal cover via the action of $pi_1(K)$ given by
$$acdot(x, y) = varphi_a(x,y)= (x, y+1)text{ and } bcdot(x, y) = varphi_b (x, y) = (x + 1, - y)$$
You can check that the one relation $varphi_bvarphi_avarphi_b^{-1} = varphi_a^{-1}$ is satisfied. (We could alternatively have computed $pi_1(K)$ by computing deck transformations first.)
Now we can try taking quotients by subgroups with finite index.
Try 1: The subgroup $A_n = langle a^n, b rangle$ with index $n$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $k$. Considering the conjugations
$$ a(a^kb^j)a^{-1} = a^{k+2} b^jtext{ and } b(a^kb^j)b^{-1} = a^{-k}b^j $$
it follows that $A_n$ is normal iff $n=2$. A fundamental domain of the action is a vertical strip of $n$ boxes, say $[0,1]times [0,n]$; for $x in [0, 1] $ and $y in [0,n]$ we have the identifications $$(x, 0) sim a^ncdot (x, 0) = (x, n)text{ and }(0, y)sim bcdot (0, y) = (1, -y) sim (1, n-y)$$ i.e. $mathbb{R}^2/A_ncong K$ for every $n$. It seems that $N(A_n)$ is $A_n$ when $n$ is odd and $A_{n/2}$ when $n$ is even, so in particular the covering has trivial automorphism group when $n$ is odd.
Try 2: The subgroups $B_n = langle a, b^n rangle$. Every element looks like $a^k b^j$ where $n$ divides $j$, and this subgroup is normal for all $n$. Now the fundamental domain is a horizontal strip of $n$ boxes where the top and bottom are identified with the same orientation, but the way the sides are identified depends on if $n$ is even or odd. In fact the quotient is the torus if $n$ is even and $K$ when $n$ is odd. This produces the coverings given by Rolf Hoyer's answer.
Assuming I'm right about the covers I got from the $A_n$'s, I guess you could say that the $A_n$'s produce covers in the fibre direction and the $B_n$'s produce covers in the base direction. I don't know what the conjugacy classes of subgroups of $pi_1(K)$ with finite index are so there might other interesting examples. Something like $langle a^n, b^m rangle$ will probably produce some combination of the two types of covers given above. In any case, this argument produces coverings $Kto K$ with any number of sheets, and regular coverings with odd numbers of sheets. I wouldn't be surprised if regular self-coverings with an even number of sheets could be ruled out somehow.
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