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I have identified three main problems holding back my piano sight reading, and this is the last of them.



Although I can play notes with the right timing by very slowly counting it out aloud ("1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4..."), I have absolutely zero ability whatsoever to just play them right intuitively just by looking at the notation.



How can I get better at this?



I mostly play classical/romantic music like Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Debussy, Liszt, and Scriabin, as well as transcriptions of modern songs and movie themes. The timings are often very irregular.










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  • Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

    – topo morto
    23 hours ago











  • I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

    – temporary_user_name
    23 hours ago













  • I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    22 hours ago











  • Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

    – Dekkadeci
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    That's why I'm asking these questions....

    – temporary_user_name
    11 hours ago
















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I have identified three main problems holding back my piano sight reading, and this is the last of them.



Although I can play notes with the right timing by very slowly counting it out aloud ("1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4..."), I have absolutely zero ability whatsoever to just play them right intuitively just by looking at the notation.



How can I get better at this?



I mostly play classical/romantic music like Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Debussy, Liszt, and Scriabin, as well as transcriptions of modern songs and movie themes. The timings are often very irregular.










share|improve this question

























  • Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

    – topo morto
    23 hours ago











  • I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

    – temporary_user_name
    23 hours ago













  • I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    22 hours ago











  • Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

    – Dekkadeci
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    That's why I'm asking these questions....

    – temporary_user_name
    11 hours ago














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I have identified three main problems holding back my piano sight reading, and this is the last of them.



Although I can play notes with the right timing by very slowly counting it out aloud ("1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4..."), I have absolutely zero ability whatsoever to just play them right intuitively just by looking at the notation.



How can I get better at this?



I mostly play classical/romantic music like Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Debussy, Liszt, and Scriabin, as well as transcriptions of modern songs and movie themes. The timings are often very irregular.










share|improve this question
















I have identified three main problems holding back my piano sight reading, and this is the last of them.



Although I can play notes with the right timing by very slowly counting it out aloud ("1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4..."), I have absolutely zero ability whatsoever to just play them right intuitively just by looking at the notation.



How can I get better at this?



I mostly play classical/romantic music like Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Debussy, Liszt, and Scriabin, as well as transcriptions of modern songs and movie themes. The timings are often very irregular.







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  • Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

    – topo morto
    23 hours ago











  • I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

    – temporary_user_name
    23 hours ago













  • I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    22 hours ago











  • Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

    – Dekkadeci
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    That's why I'm asking these questions....

    – temporary_user_name
    11 hours ago



















  • Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

    – topo morto
    23 hours ago











  • I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

    – temporary_user_name
    23 hours ago













  • I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    22 hours ago











  • Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

    – Dekkadeci
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    That's why I'm asking these questions....

    – temporary_user_name
    11 hours ago

















Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

– topo morto
23 hours ago





Are you able to play/clap back a rhythm from memory, without looking at notes on a score?

– topo morto
23 hours ago













I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

– temporary_user_name
23 hours ago







I think so, if I'm understanding you correctly. I can certainly play a rhythm once I know what it is, but deducing it from the sheets is difficult for me. I usually have to listen to a performance of it while reading the music.

– temporary_user_name
23 hours ago















I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

– Albrecht Hügli
22 hours ago





I was trying to answer you how to interprete the speed indications of a piece but now I suddenly think time in English means the measures and counting the beats. So I assume your problem is to interprete the rhythm and to read actually the rhythm aspects of sheet music, right? Or are you asking concerning the tempi?

– Albrecht Hügli
22 hours ago













Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

– Dekkadeci
15 hours ago





Do you have difficulty playing rhythms like 8th note-16th note-16th note, or do you only have difficulties with tougher stuff like the 5-against-3 polyrhythms Scriabin was fond of? If you have difficulties with the former, then I question why you're playing Chopin and Liszt so often.

– Dekkadeci
15 hours ago




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That's why I'm asking these questions....

– temporary_user_name
11 hours ago





That's why I'm asking these questions....

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Counting while playing is already the way to go! Be patient and don't give up. It will come.



I think what will help you is practicing to identify the big beats in a rhytmically complicated measure. Do it often just with the score, away from the piano. There's no shame in indicating with a small pencil line where every beat falls, for complicated rhythms you can even indicate the smaller subdivisions. When you know how the rhythm is built you can tap it out or sing it while concentrating on feeling the underlying beat. When you can do that, it's time to do it at the piano



Ofcourse while sightreading you can't take out your pencil to write on your score but if you do this regularly it becomes second nature and you will be able to 'see' these beats and their subdivisions instantly, when you see a complicated bar.






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    Try to start recognising common groupings of rhythmic values as patterns in their own right. This is a bit like moving away from reading one letter at a time when learning English to being able to recognise a whole word almost instantaneously in a single operation.



    The way that halving a note value is often just a question of adding another beam or flag means that a crotchet followed by two quavers can be recognised as having the same duration relationships as a quaver followed by two semiquavers - so the patterns you learn can translate to longer and shorter levels of note duration.






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    • 1





      Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

      – chasly from UK
      17 hours ago





















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    The There are time inducations as andante, adagio etc. and even beats/min. advices.



    So you can look up how many beats/min. an allegro ma no troppo would be and count the bars you have to play per minute.



    But your problem seems to be a quite different one. All the time indications concerning the speed of music piece are only propositions to me. Sometimes I missuse a piece as a technical practice and play it in double
    speed. Or even in performance I conduct it very slowly not to make angry the band members or the congregation, but the feed back can be complaining.



    Some piano music I will never be able to play in the “correct” speed but I don’t mind at all. My goal is not to become perfect or be an virtuous but I would like to enjoy as many compositions as possible and improve my technic, my understanding of harmony and sight reading. I will be able to accompany a group or an ensemble or myself when singing and I know I will never be perfect. Perhaps this will help you to consider and reflect your own playing.



    So if you are asking about this understanding of time - just compare different performances and listen to the different duration by different interpretations.



    But if your problem is concerning the time signature and the rhythm you have to look up this SE site under sight reading and rhythm as there are already many answers and advices.






    share|improve this answer


























    • Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

      – temporary_user_name
      11 hours ago













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    Counting while playing is already the way to go! Be patient and don't give up. It will come.



    I think what will help you is practicing to identify the big beats in a rhytmically complicated measure. Do it often just with the score, away from the piano. There's no shame in indicating with a small pencil line where every beat falls, for complicated rhythms you can even indicate the smaller subdivisions. When you know how the rhythm is built you can tap it out or sing it while concentrating on feeling the underlying beat. When you can do that, it's time to do it at the piano



    Ofcourse while sightreading you can't take out your pencil to write on your score but if you do this regularly it becomes second nature and you will be able to 'see' these beats and their subdivisions instantly, when you see a complicated bar.






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      Counting while playing is already the way to go! Be patient and don't give up. It will come.



      I think what will help you is practicing to identify the big beats in a rhytmically complicated measure. Do it often just with the score, away from the piano. There's no shame in indicating with a small pencil line where every beat falls, for complicated rhythms you can even indicate the smaller subdivisions. When you know how the rhythm is built you can tap it out or sing it while concentrating on feeling the underlying beat. When you can do that, it's time to do it at the piano



      Ofcourse while sightreading you can't take out your pencil to write on your score but if you do this regularly it becomes second nature and you will be able to 'see' these beats and their subdivisions instantly, when you see a complicated bar.






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        Counting while playing is already the way to go! Be patient and don't give up. It will come.



        I think what will help you is practicing to identify the big beats in a rhytmically complicated measure. Do it often just with the score, away from the piano. There's no shame in indicating with a small pencil line where every beat falls, for complicated rhythms you can even indicate the smaller subdivisions. When you know how the rhythm is built you can tap it out or sing it while concentrating on feeling the underlying beat. When you can do that, it's time to do it at the piano



        Ofcourse while sightreading you can't take out your pencil to write on your score but if you do this regularly it becomes second nature and you will be able to 'see' these beats and their subdivisions instantly, when you see a complicated bar.






        share|improve this answer













        Counting while playing is already the way to go! Be patient and don't give up. It will come.



        I think what will help you is practicing to identify the big beats in a rhytmically complicated measure. Do it often just with the score, away from the piano. There's no shame in indicating with a small pencil line where every beat falls, for complicated rhythms you can even indicate the smaller subdivisions. When you know how the rhythm is built you can tap it out or sing it while concentrating on feeling the underlying beat. When you can do that, it's time to do it at the piano



        Ofcourse while sightreading you can't take out your pencil to write on your score but if you do this regularly it becomes second nature and you will be able to 'see' these beats and their subdivisions instantly, when you see a complicated bar.







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            Try to start recognising common groupings of rhythmic values as patterns in their own right. This is a bit like moving away from reading one letter at a time when learning English to being able to recognise a whole word almost instantaneously in a single operation.



            The way that halving a note value is often just a question of adding another beam or flag means that a crotchet followed by two quavers can be recognised as having the same duration relationships as a quaver followed by two semiquavers - so the patterns you learn can translate to longer and shorter levels of note duration.






            share|improve this answer



















            • 1





              Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

              – chasly from UK
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            Try to start recognising common groupings of rhythmic values as patterns in their own right. This is a bit like moving away from reading one letter at a time when learning English to being able to recognise a whole word almost instantaneously in a single operation.



            The way that halving a note value is often just a question of adding another beam or flag means that a crotchet followed by two quavers can be recognised as having the same duration relationships as a quaver followed by two semiquavers - so the patterns you learn can translate to longer and shorter levels of note duration.






            share|improve this answer



















            • 1





              Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

              – chasly from UK
              17 hours ago
















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            Try to start recognising common groupings of rhythmic values as patterns in their own right. This is a bit like moving away from reading one letter at a time when learning English to being able to recognise a whole word almost instantaneously in a single operation.



            The way that halving a note value is often just a question of adding another beam or flag means that a crotchet followed by two quavers can be recognised as having the same duration relationships as a quaver followed by two semiquavers - so the patterns you learn can translate to longer and shorter levels of note duration.






            share|improve this answer













            Try to start recognising common groupings of rhythmic values as patterns in their own right. This is a bit like moving away from reading one letter at a time when learning English to being able to recognise a whole word almost instantaneously in a single operation.



            The way that halving a note value is often just a question of adding another beam or flag means that a crotchet followed by two quavers can be recognised as having the same duration relationships as a quaver followed by two semiquavers - so the patterns you learn can translate to longer and shorter levels of note duration.







            share|improve this answer












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              Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

              – chasly from UK
              17 hours ago
















            • 1





              Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

              – chasly from UK
              17 hours ago










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            Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

            – chasly from UK
            17 hours ago







            Yes, I learned to read music as an adult and this worked for me. Learn a particular pattern in one piece and you'll tend to spot when it comes up in another. Tap the rhythms on a table before complicating things with playing notes. Use 'air' beats for off-beats (or silent on-beats). When you listen to a recording then follow it on the sheet music and tap along on the page at the point you are hearing.

            – chasly from UK
            17 hours ago













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            The There are time inducations as andante, adagio etc. and even beats/min. advices.



            So you can look up how many beats/min. an allegro ma no troppo would be and count the bars you have to play per minute.



            But your problem seems to be a quite different one. All the time indications concerning the speed of music piece are only propositions to me. Sometimes I missuse a piece as a technical practice and play it in double
            speed. Or even in performance I conduct it very slowly not to make angry the band members or the congregation, but the feed back can be complaining.



            Some piano music I will never be able to play in the “correct” speed but I don’t mind at all. My goal is not to become perfect or be an virtuous but I would like to enjoy as many compositions as possible and improve my technic, my understanding of harmony and sight reading. I will be able to accompany a group or an ensemble or myself when singing and I know I will never be perfect. Perhaps this will help you to consider and reflect your own playing.



            So if you are asking about this understanding of time - just compare different performances and listen to the different duration by different interpretations.



            But if your problem is concerning the time signature and the rhythm you have to look up this SE site under sight reading and rhythm as there are already many answers and advices.






            share|improve this answer


























            • Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

              – temporary_user_name
              11 hours ago


















            1














            The There are time inducations as andante, adagio etc. and even beats/min. advices.



            So you can look up how many beats/min. an allegro ma no troppo would be and count the bars you have to play per minute.



            But your problem seems to be a quite different one. All the time indications concerning the speed of music piece are only propositions to me. Sometimes I missuse a piece as a technical practice and play it in double
            speed. Or even in performance I conduct it very slowly not to make angry the band members or the congregation, but the feed back can be complaining.



            Some piano music I will never be able to play in the “correct” speed but I don’t mind at all. My goal is not to become perfect or be an virtuous but I would like to enjoy as many compositions as possible and improve my technic, my understanding of harmony and sight reading. I will be able to accompany a group or an ensemble or myself when singing and I know I will never be perfect. Perhaps this will help you to consider and reflect your own playing.



            So if you are asking about this understanding of time - just compare different performances and listen to the different duration by different interpretations.



            But if your problem is concerning the time signature and the rhythm you have to look up this SE site under sight reading and rhythm as there are already many answers and advices.






            share|improve this answer


























            • Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

              – temporary_user_name
              11 hours ago
















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            The There are time inducations as andante, adagio etc. and even beats/min. advices.



            So you can look up how many beats/min. an allegro ma no troppo would be and count the bars you have to play per minute.



            But your problem seems to be a quite different one. All the time indications concerning the speed of music piece are only propositions to me. Sometimes I missuse a piece as a technical practice and play it in double
            speed. Or even in performance I conduct it very slowly not to make angry the band members or the congregation, but the feed back can be complaining.



            Some piano music I will never be able to play in the “correct” speed but I don’t mind at all. My goal is not to become perfect or be an virtuous but I would like to enjoy as many compositions as possible and improve my technic, my understanding of harmony and sight reading. I will be able to accompany a group or an ensemble or myself when singing and I know I will never be perfect. Perhaps this will help you to consider and reflect your own playing.



            So if you are asking about this understanding of time - just compare different performances and listen to the different duration by different interpretations.



            But if your problem is concerning the time signature and the rhythm you have to look up this SE site under sight reading and rhythm as there are already many answers and advices.






            share|improve this answer















            The There are time inducations as andante, adagio etc. and even beats/min. advices.



            So you can look up how many beats/min. an allegro ma no troppo would be and count the bars you have to play per minute.



            But your problem seems to be a quite different one. All the time indications concerning the speed of music piece are only propositions to me. Sometimes I missuse a piece as a technical practice and play it in double
            speed. Or even in performance I conduct it very slowly not to make angry the band members or the congregation, but the feed back can be complaining.



            Some piano music I will never be able to play in the “correct” speed but I don’t mind at all. My goal is not to become perfect or be an virtuous but I would like to enjoy as many compositions as possible and improve my technic, my understanding of harmony and sight reading. I will be able to accompany a group or an ensemble or myself when singing and I know I will never be perfect. Perhaps this will help you to consider and reflect your own playing.



            So if you are asking about this understanding of time - just compare different performances and listen to the different duration by different interpretations.



            But if your problem is concerning the time signature and the rhythm you have to look up this SE site under sight reading and rhythm as there are already many answers and advices.







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            • Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

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            • Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

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              11 hours ago



















            Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

            – temporary_user_name
            11 hours ago







            Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean the tempo-- I meant the rhythm, if that's the right word, correctly spacing out quarter notes, half notes, eighth notes, etc. Apologize for the lack of clarity.

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            11 hours ago




















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